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Nkuhuma Pride

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(04-29-2024, 05:34 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: So, only one of Amber Eye's daughters is still alive?  How many subs?  That one sub male, how's he doing?

I believe there’s 3 females and one male that are still alive from that 2021 litter. Think Amber eyes also has two daughters alive but sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong. The male has been spending his time between K4 and Khanya with other pride members who have both accepted him up until this point. Hopefully both PCMs and Ndzengas going back to their own territories, allowing him to be safe for the time being unless all Kambula boys go back to Northern Sabi Sands.
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After writing that I was just thinking K4 and Khanya obviously know of each others existence but there’s a chance they’ve seen each other close up. They’ve been around the exact same areas at some points within the last week and certain pride members have been switching between them. Hopefully they’ve just been avoiding each other so there’s one less male lion they have to worry about.
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(04-29-2024, 07:05 PM)KM600 Wrote: After writing that I was just thinking K4 and Khanya obviously know of each others existence but there’s a chance they’ve seen each other close up. They’ve been around the exact same areas at some points within the last week and certain pride members have been switching between them. Hopefully they’ve just been avoiding each other so there’s one less male lion they have to worry about.

It was reported that they were both mating with pretty much all of the Nkhuma's.  I can't imagine they weren't aware of each other.  I've been curious where Khanya is right now, but if the PCM's are here, and the BDM's are on Djuma.  Khanya has to be a master of stealth at this point with all of his journeys.  My concern is for K4, who hasn't really had to deal with the brutality of a pair like the PCM's to this point.

My heart breaks for the Nkhuma's.  Seeing those images of Amber eye's daughter looking sad and following the path of K4 is... ughh.  I hate following lions.
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(04-29-2024, 07:08 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote:
(04-29-2024, 07:05 PM)KM600 Wrote: After writing that I was just thinking K4 and Khanya obviously know of each others existence but there’s a chance they’ve seen each other close up. They’ve been around the exact same areas at some points within the last week and certain pride members have been switching between them. Hopefully they’ve just been avoiding each other so there’s one less male lion they have to worry about.

It was reported that they were both mating with pretty much all of the Nkhuma's.  I can't imagine they weren't aware of each other.  I've been curious where Khanya is right now, but if the PCM's are here, and the BDM's are on Djuma.  Khanya has to be a master of stealth at this point with all of his journeys.  My concern is for K4, who hasn't really had to deal with the brutality of a pair like the PCM's to this point.

My heart breaks for the Nkhuma's.  Seeing those images of Amber eye's daughter looking sad and following the path of K4 is... ughh.  I hate following lions.

Who reported Khanya has been mating with the Nkuhumas cos I haven’t heard the same. As for his current positioning, he’s been spotted around the Londolozi boundary recently as per @NLAL11 earlier message.
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(04-29-2024, 07:30 PM)KM600 Wrote:
(04-29-2024, 07:08 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote:
(04-29-2024, 07:05 PM)KM600 Wrote: After writing that I was just thinking K4 and Khanya obviously know of each others existence but there’s a chance they’ve seen each other close up. They’ve been around the exact same areas at some points within the last week and certain pride members have been switching between them. Hopefully they’ve just been avoiding each other so there’s one less male lion they have to worry about.

It was reported that they were both mating with pretty much all of the Nkhuma's.  I can't imagine they weren't aware of each other.  I've been curious where Khanya is right now, but if the PCM's are here, and the BDM's are on Djuma.  Khanya has to be a master of stealth at this point with all of his journeys.  My concern is for K4, who hasn't really had to deal with the brutality of a pair like the PCM's to this point.

My heart breaks for the Nkhuma's.  Seeing those images of Amber eye's daughter looking sad and following the path of K4 is... ughh.  I hate following lions.

Who reported Khanya has been mating with the Nkuhumas cos I haven’t heard the same. As for his current positioning, he’s been spotted around the Londolozi boundary recently as per @NLAL11 earlier message.

I've seen that posted several places actually.  I'll try to find some of the posts soon.

There were several posts and reports and videos of him hanging out with several of the girls, and they looked bonded. I guess nobody actually saw them mate.
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(04-29-2024, 05:34 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: So, only one of Amber Eye's daughters is still alive?  How many subs?  That one sub male, how's he doing?

No, as far as we know they both should still be alive.

Let me clarify my previous post: the girl on WildEarth yesterday was one of Amber Eyes' daughters. Tattered Ear and Chela have died, leaving Ridge Nose's daughter, Purple Eye's daughter, and Amber Eyes' other daughter. 4 lionesses. As @Tr1x24 said, two from the Birmingham litter, and two from the first Avoca litter (2019). And there should still be 4 subs left from the 2021 litter, but I can't comment on that for certain after the chaos of the last couple of days.
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(04-29-2024, 07:45 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: And there should still be 4 subs left from the 2021 litter, but I can't comment on that for certain after the chaos of the last couple of days.

There should be 4 sub females and sub male.

So, NKs should be :

2 females born in 2016
2 females born in 2019/20
4 sub females born in 2021
1 sub male born 2021

Thats if nothing happened what we are not aware of.
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@NLAL11 Gijimas never attacked female subs to my knowledge, but yeah they don't tolerate male subs, they have been seen chasing the Styx male sub after all.
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(04-29-2024, 07:49 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(04-29-2024, 07:45 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: And there should still be 4 subs left from the 2021 litter, but I can't comment on that for certain after the chaos of the last couple of days.

There should be 4 sub females and sub male.

So, NKs should be :

2 females born in 2016
2 females born in 2019/20
4 sub females born in 2022
1 sub male born 2022

Thats if nothing happened what we are not aware of.

Amber Eyes' daughters were born July 2019 so they'll be turning 5 in a few months.
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(04-29-2024, 10:45 PM)NLAL11 Wrote:
(04-29-2024, 07:49 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(04-29-2024, 07:45 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: And there should still be 4 subs left from the 2021 litter, but I can't comment on that for certain after the chaos of the last couple of days.

There should be 4 sub females and sub male.

So, NKs should be :

2 females born in 2016
2 females born in 2019/20
4 sub females born in 2022
1 sub male born 2022

Thats if nothing happened what we are not aware of.

Amber Eyes' daughters were born July 2019 so they'll be turning 5 in a few months.

These 2 were also mating with K4 though right?  At least we know the one girl with the notch in her ear.
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(04-29-2024, 10:40 PM)Mapokser Wrote: @NLAL11 Gijimas never attacked female subs to my knowledge, but yeah they don't tolerate male subs, they have been seen chasing the Styx male sub after all.

Gijimas did attack and chase female Styx subs.
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(04-29-2024, 10:45 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: Amber Eyes' daughters were born July 2019 so they'll be turning 5 in a few months.

Those 2 are not both Amber Eyes daughters, as 1 female is ~ half a year younger.

I think younger female should be Chelas daughter.
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wait a minute so amber eyes two daughters are not amber eyes two daughters only 1 is and the other is chelas daughter
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(04-29-2024, 11:09 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote: wait a minute so amber eyes two daughters are not amber eyes two daughters only 1 is and the other is chelas daughter

I am not sure that is true.  One of Amber eye's daughters was raised by Chela, I know that, but everything I've read says that the only surviving offspring of Chela is that boy that is with Mohawk now.  All could be wrong, and I am so very new to understanding all of this, and those lions are all before my time, so... I guess I know nothing.
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(04-29-2024, 11:09 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote: wait a minute so amber eyes two daughters are not amber eyes two daughters only 1 is and the other is chelas daughter

Idk who is who's daughters, but 2 young females are not same age.
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