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(10-31-2020, 06:58 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: Nharhu male (Xitaya) December 2019 and October 2020.
To be honest. Their mane and size is completely different. The edition not is the best but I'll try to improve on it
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Mane size and body size are two different things. It is like you would compare 18 years old men to the same men 7 years later and and said that he 7 years later must be bigger than before because his beard growed up.
I don't mean that. I'm trying to mark out that the three Nharhu males have grown a lot till the point that could be big as the larger Mbiri male or perhaps not.
Nonetheless in both photos you can witness the change of everything. (1) the mane (2) size (3) height.
The lions were a relatively constant feature this week in their various forms. The Nharhu males were most evident, and started the week completing a four-day mating period with the older female from the River Pride. Despite disappearing into the Kruger National Park early in the week, the other two River lionesses and the cub did make a reappearance later in the week. The week ended with all three Nharhu males being found on Giraffe Plains. Oddly though, when the limping male arrived in the morning, he lay down about 100m from them and didn’t go and greet them as I thought he would; in the afternoon he had moved off and didn’t even join in with their roaring session. This was strange because their roars were a direct response to the roars of some unknown male lions roaring to the west of the Timbavati. Civilized also got to see the Giraffe Plains pride down in the west later on in the week.
(Which lions could be roaring from the west?) Monwana?
Image by: Chad Cocking
(11-11-2020, 04:08 AM)Potato Wrote: "(Which lions could be roaring from the west?) Monwana?"
Yup, must have been Monwanas.
That's incredible! The Monwana males are very big young males.
My bet are the Nharhu males,Those 3 boys especially Xitaya and Mpohlo are true warriors. They have chased away a few lions already including the two Mbiri males a few times
" They have chased away a few lions already including the two Mbiri males a few times"
So far they were seen chassing only Mbiris. They did not confront any other lion coalition.
"My bet are the Nharhu males,"
They do not fight yet. They just roared to each others, each coalition from its own territory. They share the border with each others. Also each of those coalition seems to be content with territory and pride which they have as for now. There is no really need for each of them to take risk confronting other coalition unless they will want to expand, but it doesn't look like it. What it comes to beting what if such confrontation happens it is really hard to say what we can expect from Monwanas as body size is not everythink. Also hard to say what we can expect from Nharhus regarding their unity - would it be 3vs2 or 2vs2. If it would be 3vs2 then I would definitely put my bet on Nharhus. If it would be 2vs2 no outcome would surprise me.
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(11-11-2020, 05:26 AM)Potato Wrote: " They have chased away a few lions already including the two Mbiri males a few times"
So far they were seen chassing only Mbiris. They did not confront any other lion coalition.
"My bet are the Nharhu males,"
They do not fight yet. They just roared to each others, each coalition from its own territory. They share the border with each others. Also each of those coalition seems to be content with territory and pride which they have as for now. There is no really need for each of them to take risk confronting other coalition unless they will want to expand, but it doesn't look like it. What it comes to beting what if such confrontation happens it is really hard to say what we can expect from Monwanas as body size is not everythink. Also hard to say what we can expect from Nharhus regarding their unity - would it be 3vs2 or 2vs2. If it would be 3vs2 then I would definitely put my bet on Nharhus. If it would be 2vs2 no outcome would surprise me.
They were seen chasing to something around Kambaku area. Chad Cocking also saw tracks of lions coming into keer-Keer from North. Those definitely were the Nharhu males.
If the Nharhu were capable to defeated the Mbiri males on 2V2 definitely they means power in the area
"If the Nharhu were capable to defeated the Mbiri males on 2V2 definitely they means power in the area"
They do, still the question is what exactly Monwanas are capable of. That is why I said that no outcome would surprise me depends what Monwanas will show. Personally I expect them to show themselfs to be at least strong duo, but at that point it is only speculation. We will know what Monwanas are capable of when we will see them in confrontation against other coalition with equal numbers.
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(11-11-2020, 05:26 AM)Potato Wrote: " They have chased away a few lions already including the two Mbiri males a few times"
So far they were seen chassing only Mbiris. They did not confront any other lion coalition.
"My bet are the Nharhu males,"
They do not fight yet. They just roared to each others, each coalition from its own territory. They share the border with each others. Also each of those coalition seems to be content with territory and pride which they have as for now. There is no really need for each of them to take risk confronting other coalition unless they will want to expand, but it doesn't look like it. What it comes to beting what if such confrontation happens it is really hard to say what we can expect from Monwanas as body size is not everythink. Also hard to say what we can expect from Nharhus regarding their unity - would it be 3vs2 or 2vs2. If it would be 3vs2 then I would definitely put my bet on Nharhus. If it would be 2vs2 no outcome would surprise me.
They were seen chasing to something around Kambaku area. Chad Cocking also saw tracks of lions coming into keer-Keer from North. Those definitely were the Nharhu males.
If the Nharhu were capable to defeated the Mbiri males on 2V2 definitely they means power in the area
I think I remember seeing the three lions known as the Tumbela males in the Western Sabi Sands also being referred to Nharhu males. Was that a misidentification or are those males related to the 3 here?
(11-12-2020, 03:57 PM)sundarbans Wrote: I think I remember seeing the three lions known as the Tumbela males in the Western Sabi Sands also being referred to Nharhu males. Was that a misidentification or are those males related to the 3 here?
Actually. Those three Tumbela/Nharu comes from the Manyeleti game reserve and were born in different years.
As well the name is spelled very different "Nharu" whilst these three from Timbavati are "Nharhu" with two "H" and were born around 2013/2014. Sired by a different coalition and born in Klaserie Private Nature Reserve
(11-12-2020, 03:57 PM)sundarbans Wrote: I think I remember seeing the three lions known as the Tumbela males in the Western Sabi Sands also being referred to Nharhu males. Was that a misidentification or are those males related to the 3 here?
THey are not related. Nharu/Nharhu means 3 and it happens that this Timbavati coalition was named that way by guides, same as one of Manyeleti pride (Nharu) from which Tumbela/Nharu males came from. Also MAnyeleti pride just to be called Nharu while this Timbavati coalition just to be called Nharhu so a bit different.
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