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Man-Animal Interaction: Conflict & Coexistance

United States Styx38 Offline
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( This post was last modified: 11-17-2022, 02:16 AM by Styx38 )

(10-26-2022, 10:17 PM)Pckts Wrote: 1st confirmed instance of a snake consuming a person that I know of. 
Reticulated python ate an old woman.

Hey @Pckts 

This may sound like a stupid question, but how did these Pythons manage to swallow adult humans?

If  I am correct, aren't Pythons unabl to swallow humans due to their relatively broad shoulders?

Is it because these humans were small in size?
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(11-17-2022, 02:15 AM)Styx38 Wrote:
(10-26-2022, 10:17 PM)Pckts Wrote: 1st confirmed instance of a snake consuming a person that I know of. 
Reticulated python ate an old woman.

Hey @Pckts 

This may sound like a stupid question, but how did these Pythons manage to swallow adult humans?

If  I am correct, aren't Pythons unabl to swallow humans due to their relatively broad shoulders?

Is it because these humans were small in size?

I was always under the impression that adults were too large but assuming they are small enough I guess it's possible.
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( This post was last modified: 11-17-2022, 02:48 AM by Ashutosh )

@Styx38, there was another case from Indonesia where a 7 metre long reticulated python had eaten a person:

https://www.indiatoday.in/fyi/story/python-indonesian-reticulated-python-swallows-man-968347-2017-03-29
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(11-15-2022, 11:23 AM)Styx38 Wrote: I remember reading a while back that a Python won't be able to swallow an adult human due to his/her broad shoulders.
I read that too many years ago. That theory was never convincing as they could manage to fit in a deer. So why would a human shoulder present an obstacle? Anyway, with the recent instances, I think they will need to revise that theory.
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Watch the documentary, "Tiger 24" filmed by Warren Pereira. It was quite informative, and presented a neutral stand on the case. There was T-24's lifestory and his interactions with his family. It was suggested that if T-24 was the killer, it all probably started after his failed treatment in 2009 where he woke up in the middle of the treatment. Discussed various eye witness accounts from the 4 killings. Discussed other possible suspects, like T-72 and T-28. Discussed the problems faced by T-39 Noor and her cubs once T-24 was taken away, how T-57 claimed the territory and the 2 cubs that Noor had at that time went up north of the park, never to be seen again. There were opinions from park officials and activists. No particular being can be blamed. Bureaucracy was the biggest culprit.
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Man and woman who were killed by a Leopard in Mysore, India.


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"Mysuru: With two young lives lost to man animal conflict in a span of one month, the spotlight is back again on the burning issue that continues to prolong with no solution in sight.

Meghana a 23-year-old student died after she was attacked by a leopard at S Kebbehundi village in T Narasipur taluk in Mysuru district on the night of December 1. She was a final year BCom student at Government Degree College, T Narsipur

She was in the backyard of her house, when the leopard hiding in the bushes pounced on her. The injured Meghana was rushed to Government Hospital in T Narasipur, but in vain, as she had succumbed to the injuries in transit.

Exactly a month ago on October 31, Manjunath aged 20 years was killed in a similar incident, near Magadur Lingaiahanahundi village in the same taluk. He was a BCom student at Maharaja’s College in Mysuru. He along with his friends had gone to the temple at Mallappa Hill near the village, when the leopard attacked him. Though his friends made an attempt to scare away the leopard, it proved little help in saving Manjunath’s life.
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https://www.mysoorunews.com/leopard-atta...in-mysuru/



A picture of the man's corpse was also photographed.



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https://newskarnataka.com/karnataka/mysu...k/02112022
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The snake island in Africa on the Lake Victoria, the biggest one inside Africa... Example of paeceful interactions from remote times between fishermen (around 100) and several hundreds of venomous snakes (forest cobras) among enormous bird colonies (more than 200.000).









" There is an island full of deadly venomous snakes in Africa. It is called Musambwa island and it is on Lake Victoria. Living Zoology went to film this very remote place for their upcoming documentary called The Most Venomous Snakes of Africa. How is the life of fishermen among hundreds of Forest cobras? Watch this video to find out. The island is also home to huge bird colonies.  "
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Incredible video, watch till the end.


The stamina and speed these guys have is impressive.
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Account about an accident, occurring on the 10th February 2024 in a small village, Kattikkulam, of the Wayanad districtof the Kerala state in India. Into this small village, an angry 4 tons-elephant trampled to death a man after having taked a hence down. Thus demonstration of angry people on the streeet against the inaction of the authorities: 105 people have been killed by elephants between 2018 and 2022 only in the Kerala state of India. The problem is always the same, the natural biotop of the wild fauna is constantly threatened by the growing human activities and the elephants in return encroach onto the human settlements. Video dated from yesterday.






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Another HWC is Tanzania. Trophy hunting is cruel and the perpetrators should be dealt with accordingly.

https://africageographic.com/stories/tro...-tanzania/
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(02-26-2024, 12:58 PM)BigLion39 Wrote: Another HWC is Tanzania. Trophy hunting is cruel and the perpetrators should be dealt with accordingly.

https://africageographic.com/stories/tro...-tanzania/


Exploring the social acceptability of trophy hunting WildCRU

[Fierce international debates rage over whether trophy hunting is socially acceptable, especially when people from the Global North hunt well-known animals in sub-Saharan Africa. But how much do we really know about how acceptable or unacceptable members of the public perceive trophy hunting to be? And are some forms of hunting less acceptable or more acceptable than others?

A new paper led by WildCRU’s Morally Contested Conservation (MCC) project investigates perceptions of the acceptability of trophy hunting in sub-Saharan Africa among more than 1200 people who live in urban areas of the United States, United Kingdom, and South Africa.

The team used an online experiment to evaluate whether acceptability of trophy hunting depends on what animal would be hunted, and how meat and revenue from the hunt would be used. Each participant in the experiment was asked how acceptable or unacceptable it would be for a particular hunt to take place. Some involved hunting elephants, others hunting zebras. In some, meat would be left for wild animals to eat but in others meat would be provided to people who live nearby. In some, revenues would help support wildlife conservation locally, in others revenues would help support economic development locally, and in others revenues would help support hunting enterprises.

This approach allowed the team to understand why some hunts were perceived as more or less acceptable than others. Overall, zebra hunting was more acceptable than elephant hunting, providing meat to local people more acceptable than leaving it for wildlife to eat, and revenue supporting wildlife conservation more acceptable than supporting economic development or hunting enterprises. Acceptability was generally lower among participants from the United Kingdom and those who more strongly identified as an animal protectionist, but generally higher among participants with more formal education, who more strongly identified as a hunter, or who would more strongly prioritise people over wild animals.

Overall, participants perceived hunts to be more acceptable when they would produce tangible benefits for people who live in or near hunting areas in sub-Saharan Africa. The study therefore provides evidence that public perceptions are more pragmatic than is often evident in media coverage and social media exchanges that leave little room for context and nuance. This underscores the importance of recognising that ‘trophy hunting’ is a broad term that covers a wide range of activities involving many different species, motivations, and ecological and economic impacts.

The research team proposes that their findings could help inform contemporary decisions over the role of trophy hunting in wildlife management and economic development. These include decisions in African countries on whether to continue, reform, or establish hunting operations as well as decisions on potential trophy import restrictions in North America and Europe. For example, “smart bans” allowing imports from hunts that clearly demonstrate local benefits might better reflect nuances in perceptions of people who do not live in or around hunting areas in sub-Saharan Africa, while incentivising good practice among hunting operators.

The team emphasise that it will be especially important to understand perspectives of trophy hunting among people who live in rural areas of sub-Saharan Africa, who are most affected by decisions affecting wildlife in the region.

Hunting, including trophy hunting, is one of the controversial issues in conservation that the MCC team study in rural communities in Kenya, Tanzania, and Zimbabwe.]

The research paper "Public perceptions of trophy hunting are pragmatic, not dogmatic" Royal Society Publishing
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I don't know exactly where to post this french documentary (45 minutes), dated from the 2024 February month, about the Amour tiger. It's a recent one, interesting.
To sum up important facts:

1) There are around 600 Amour tigers in the Russian part of the Siberian, they were 30 just after the 2th World war when the first counting had been made.
2) Each adult tiger must kill 60-70 preys (mainly boars and deers ) during the year.
3) As concerns the interactions between bears and tigers, where the felids rules it is the apex predator.
4) The tiger is considered as a sacred animal by the local population. The beast is protected and never killed excepted if it kills somebody. Tigers and men have learnt to coexist together. Protecting the tiger amounts to protecting the entire biotops and some other species like Amour leopard, bears, elks and so on, till some rare birds.
5) Unlucky, the poaching still exists a bit.
6) the 4th sunday of September is a celebration day of the Amour tiger in Vladivostock, the biggest city near the rugged landscapes sheltering the Amour tigers.






Au bord de l’extinction il y a quatre-vingts ans, le tigre de Sibérie reconquiert peu à peu les forêts de l’Extrême-Orient russe, où il doit apprendre à coexister avec les hommes. 

Considéré comme l’âme de la faune russe, le plus grand félin du monde a pourtant failli disparaître : en 1940, il ne restait plus que 40 tigres de Sibérie. Grâce à la mise en place de mesures de protection, l’espèce a peu à peu reconquis les forêts vierges de l’est de la Russie. Les tigres de l’Amour, comme on les appelle aussi en référence au fleuve éponyme, y occupent le sommet de la pyramide alimentaire et contribuent à la préservation de l'écosystème. Mais les hommes, attirés par le commerce lucratif du bois, s’enfoncent toujours plus dans la forêt et empiètent sur leur habitat.

Dans les pas d’un jeune mâle en quête d’un nouveau territoire, d’un chasseur du peuple oudihé ou encore d’une équipe chargée de faciliter la cohabitation entre les félins et les hommes, ce documentaire invite à partager le quotidien des tigres et leur lutte pour la survie, tout en dévoilant la riche biodiversité du territoire qu’ils occupent.
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A lioness coming into the Nairob surbub, entering a private property, and catching a big rotweiler (75 kilos). Something that happens rarely now, but, yes, still possible.








" In a suburb on the outskirts of Nairobi a family is processing the news that their pet was taken by a lioness during the night. CCTV footage reveals the animal jumping up across the house gate, later leaving the same way while clutching a Rottweiler in her mouth. The BBC caught up with the pet's owners who are still shocked that their beloved animal was snatched away. "
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In order to supply more informations about the account explained to post #253, it seems that this roaming lioness had already killed 6 dogs in this district of the Nairobi surburb bordering the Nairobi national park. The park which suffers big floods forcing this lioness to seek some preys, in this particular case domestic dogs, by going out of its natural habitat.







" Kenya Wildlife Services rangers from Nairobi National Park are tonight searching for a lioness captured on CCTV cameras jumping over a wall in Maasai Lodge, Rongai killing a dog before carrying the carcass away. Residents of Olmeut Village say at least six dogs have been killed by the roaming lioness within a week, posing a security threat to the neighbourhood. KWS officials who have confirmed presence of wildlife in Rongai and Kitengela areas due to flooding in the park have urged residents to be cautious and report their presence to authorities. "
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A fairly old (2020) news of a young 2-month old Red serow calf rescued in Bandarban (Southeast Bangladesh) after its mother was killed by hunter(s). Serows are a rare, elusive and understudied bovid that are found in both northeast and southeast Bangladesh and other parts of South and Southeast Asia. Source.


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