Lions of Tanzania (Serengeti, Ngorongoro and others)

[BigLion39]

(07-24-2024, 03:01 AM)Ngonya Wrote: turns out we are not 100% that the limping male is 1/9 of the Saba Bora, i saw alot of people claiming he is one of Bob Jr sons
anyways, many of you probably already know, but he was treated back on early july.

Yeah i saw this when it popped up in my feed last week. I wonder if this is older footage, before he was treated? That'sys the 1st thought that came to mind when i saw it.  It's over a month since he was initially treated i would expect him to have recovered some unless he was caught again. Reply

[BA0701]

(07-24-2024, 11:58 PM)Ngonya Wrote: by Rufina Marko William
"King Atlas 1/7 Saba Bora Males, Such a Magnificent Lion, his eyes and his golden manes.
Found him 2 days ago, his eyes could tell me how focused he was on the plains watching Hartbeests as they graze. Suddenly he stood up and I could tell how hungry he was. Swipe to see the Video
His Heap hasn't recovered well as he is limping and not able to hunt effectively."

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Fixed your video for you. Since this may be helpful to others as well, I'll post it here, as opposed to in a PM.

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[Ngonya]

(08-30-2024, 07:10 PM)BA0701 Wrote:

(07-24-2024, 11:58 PM)Ngonya Wrote: by Rufina Marko William
"King Atlas 1/7 Saba Bora Males, Such a Magnificent Lion, his eyes and his golden manes.
Found him 2 days ago, his eyes could tell me how focused he was on the plains watching Hartbeests as they graze. Suddenly he stood up and I could tell how hungry he was. Swipe to see the Video
His Heap hasn't recovered well as he is limping and not able to hunt effectively."

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*This image is copyright of its original author

Fixed your video for you. Since this may be helpful to others as well, I'll post it here, as opposed to in a PM.

Imgur, on the videos pages, can be a little confusing, as there are in fact two sets of ..., as you can see here:

*This image is copyright of its original author

The second (lower) set of ... are only seen when you place your pointer on the area of the video itself, and that is the ... you will want to select "Copy Link" from, as seen here:

*This image is copyright of its original author

You can get to a "Copy Link" from the top set of ..., but they in fact provide different URLs, and the URL from the bottom option is the one that will properly embed on WildFact, using the [grvideo]"URL"[/grvideo] method.

i learned pretty well to use the imgur embed thanks to u and another user i forgot.
My embed didnt work at that post bc i made it when i was on mobile and was honestly not sure how it worked there, but when on my computer it gets easier.

Thanks anyway, im sure this will be helpful whenever i dont remember it or someone else needs Reply

[BA0701]

(08-30-2024, 08:21 PM)Ngonya Wrote:

(08-30-2024, 07:10 PM)BA0701 Wrote:

(07-24-2024, 11:58 PM)Ngonya Wrote: by Rufina Marko William
"King Atlas 1/7 Saba Bora Males, Such a Magnificent Lion, his eyes and his golden manes.
Found him 2 days ago, his eyes could tell me how focused he was on the plains watching Hartbeests as they graze. Suddenly he stood up and I could tell how hungry he was. Swipe to see the Video
His Heap hasn't recovered well as he is limping and not able to hunt effectively."

*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author

Fixed your video for you. Since this may be helpful to others as well, I'll post it here, as opposed to in a PM.

Imgur, on the videos pages, can be a little confusing, as there are in fact two sets of ..., as you can see here:

*This image is copyright of its original author

The second (lower) set of ... are only seen when you place your pointer on the area of the video itself, and that is the ... you will want to select "Copy Link" from, as seen here:

*This image is copyright of its original author

You can get to a "Copy Link" from the top set of ..., but they in fact provide different URLs, and the URL from the bottom option is the one that will properly embed on WildFact, using the [grvideo]"URL"[/grvideo] method.

i learned pretty well to use the imgur embed thanks to u and another user i forgot.
My embed didnt work at that post bc i made it when i was on mobile and was honestly not sure how it worked there, but when on my computer it gets easier.

Thanks anyway, im sure this will be helpful whenever i dont remember it or someone else needs

I believe the other user was @criollo2mil . The link you had pasted in your OP, was the link from the top options ..., but it is different from the link provided in the lower ... Always happy to help, my friend! Reply

[Ngonya]

3 of the mighty Saba Bora brothers a few days ago

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Scar aka Chongo

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not sure who are the other two but atleast one should be Kiduku, great partner of Chongo

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[Ngonya]

2/9 Saba Bora males today
The limping male, he was named 'King Atlas' or 'Atlas'. He is a handsome lion and easy to ID with his well-developed mane and characteristic limp

Along wit him, the dominant brother, Scar aka Chongo

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[Ngonya]

Dominant Saba Bora
Scar aka Chongo

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by Mtembezi Africa Safari

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[Spalea]

I really don't know if it is true. And this video doesn't give any data (length, weight and so on). Why not ? It seems that these lions' big size could have originated an intruder lions invasion into the crater around 2010, later called the "Flow coalition".

" The Legacy of the flow coalition.
Here, the lions are unique—a mysterious land that produces the largest lions in all of Africa. It was home to a coalition that puzzled local biologists; after all, even with foreign genes, they adapted in such a way that their offspring were considered true feline giants. The Ngorongoro Crater, an ancient volcanic caldera, hosts one of the greatest concentrations of wildlife in Africa. However, something particularly intriguing has captured the attention of scientists and adventurers worldwide—lions of such proportions that, when compared to the rest of the continent, show us that there are more mysteries on this earth than we can imagine.

When the flow coalition emerged, they ushered in a new era of observation and study in the region. What was once believed to be genetic was revealed to possibly be more linked to the environment rather than DNA. These lions are larger, stronger, and more resilient than most felines in Africa. What secret does this crater hold that makes them so different?

This is what we're going to try to uncover. " Reply

[BA0701]

(Yesterday, 11:40 PM)Spalea Wrote: I really don't know if it is true. And this video doesn't give any data (length, weight and so on). Why not ? It seems that these lions' big size could have originated an intruder lions invasion into the crater around 2010, later called the "Flow coalition".  

" The Legacy of the flow coalition.
Here, the lions are unique—a mysterious land that produces the largest lions in all of Africa. It was home to a coalition that puzzled local biologists; after all, even with foreign genes, they adapted in such a way that their offspring were considered true feline giants. The Ngorongoro Crater, an ancient volcanic caldera, hosts one of the greatest concentrations of wildlife in Africa. However, something particularly intriguing has captured the attention of scientists and adventurers worldwide—lions of such proportions that, when compared to the rest of the continent, show us that there are more mysteries on this earth than we can imagine.

When the flow coalition emerged, they ushered in a new era of observation and study in the region. What was once believed to be genetic was revealed to possibly be more linked to the environment rather than DNA. These lions are larger, stronger, and more resilient than most felines in Africa. What secret does this crater hold that makes them so different?

This is what we're going to try to uncover. "

I don't know that the extra large size of Crater Cats is from a single coalition. In fact, I am not sure that their bigger size is related to genetics at all. My understanding, and maybe someone who is more knowledgeable on the matter can correct me if I am wrong, is that the Crater Cats are larger due to a consistent abundance of prey animals, and that their extra large and full manes is related to the cooler climate inside the crater. If it was a genetic result, I'd expect there to be a secondary, or sub, species designation given to them. Reply

[Spalea]

@BA0701 :

You wrote:

" I don't know that the extra large size of Crater Cats is from a single coalition. In fact, I am not sure that their bigger size is related to genetics at all. My understanding, and maybe someone who is more knowledgeable on the matter can correct me if I am wrong, is that the Crater Cats are larger due to a consistent abundance of prey animals, and that their extra large and full manes is related to the cooler climate inside the crater. If it was a genetic result, I'd expect there to be a secondary, or sub, species designation given to them. "


I have been told that the biggest lions in Africa were the Ngorongoro lions because of the cooler temperatures inside the crater, the Okawongo lions because of the assiduous pratice of swimming and moving into the water, but there is no one data aiming or tending to show that clearly. Exactly also like the extinct Atlas lions because of the altitude (for me it's a fake because which were their preys ? Wild goats, wild pigs... I truly think that a huge lion subspecy must necessary hunt huge preys: buffalos, giraffes and so on).

I'm agree with you as concerns the only two intruder males able to father big.sized lions lineage. It's a little bit "far-fetched". Reply