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(10-22-2024, 06:51 AM)afortich Wrote: So why SBDM is limping, did he fight?? I've been away for one week and trying to catch up on what's going on. Thanks!
He have that limp since he got separated from his brother.
The SBDM in Sabi Sands have gotten the limp from the Ndzengha Males or Plains Camp Males months ago and maybe that is why the SBDM that goes back to Thornybush leave Sabi Sands because he cannot find his brother even the guides cannot find him in weeks or maybe a month of searching. Both brother have gotten injured and been separated from that fight with the Ndzengha or PCM.
There is even a sighting when the SBDM in Sabi Sands is found he was being dominated by Khanya Talamati and the SBDM is being submissive.
He did have the limp for months and he is better compared to last time, hopefully it's not a permanent injury.
He’s had a limp for a long time and I guess that part of the reason his brother left him. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a male leave his brother like that
(10-22-2024, 08:35 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: He’s had a limp for a long time and I guess that part of the reason his brother left him. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a male leave his brother like that
It happens. Male lion was really bad. A lion male lion has to hunt move around. I do not think I ever seen a male lion just hang around when a male lion their brother or partner can’t move around. He was in very bad condition is very good to see him doing better. When male lions fight stronger male lions they do leave each other some leave each other to survive.
(10-22-2024, 08:35 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: He’s had a limp for a long time and I guess that part of the reason his brother left him. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a male leave his brother like that
Yeah, he had that damage to his front leg and it was substantial. I think we all thought that was the end of him back then, and obviously so did his brother.
(10-22-2024, 07:08 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Looks like Kambulas K4 and K6 managed to catch Kruger male yesterday in a chase:
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Once again shows they’re not yet as serious as they need to be, u can’t fully see his backend but I don’t imagine it’s any worse than what we can already see, the inside of his right left looks fine. If they want to keep Nkuhuma Pride they need to take advantage of these altercations, only a matter of time before PCMs come back and it’s either fight or flight, tho I have no doubt they’ll run from 2 PCMs when together, especially with the Kambula 4 being split atm.
(10-22-2024, 07:08 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Looks like Kambulas K4 and K6 managed to catch Kruger male yesterday in a chase:
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Once again shows they’re not yet as serious as they need to be, u can’t fully see his backend but I don’t imagine it’s any worse than what we can already see, the inside of his right left looks fine. If they want to keep Nkuhuma Pride they need to take advantage of these altercations, only a matter of time before PCMs come back and it’s either fight or flight, tho I have no doubt they’ll run from 2 PCMs when together, especially with the Kambula 4 being split atm.
Agreed. The PCM need to keep the West in order though. It really ticks me off they keep letting everything fend for itself out there.
Two Kambulas with the Nkuhumas and interestingly the Nkuhuma Young Male is there while the SBDM and Kruger Male is not spotted. Some mating did happened with K4 and Nkuhumas, also they let the Nkuhumas to eat.
(10-22-2024, 07:25 PM)KM600 Wrote: Once again shows they’re not yet as serious as they need to be, u can’t fully see his backend but I don’t imagine it’s any worse than what we can already see, the inside of his right left looks fine. If they want to keep Nkuhuma Pride they need to take advantage of these altercations, only a matter of time before PCMs come back and it’s either fight or flight, tho I have no doubt they’ll run from 2 PCMs when together, especially with the Kambula 4 being split atm.
No point of killing Kruger male there and risking injuries, he is no threat to them as lone nomadic male.
(10-22-2024, 07:31 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: Well, there you have it. It was Ridge Nose's subs that got the Tsalala cub supposedly.
This may be the worst outcome as those 2 aren't going anywhere.
Kinda suspected it was them, as they hang in that area.
I think if 2 adult males encountered them and attack them all cubs would be prob dead, vs 2 sub lions, she has a chance to face them.
Although, sometimes rival females are more agressive towards rival cubs than random nomadic males.
Anyways, it will be really hard for her to rise those cubs, as currently theres a lot of nomads roaming around and traverse this area.
Yeah, this is why I say this is the worst outcome. I think it's a miracle the cubs all got to this age. It's going to be almost impossible for the remaining 2 to survive, and highly likely that neither do. Being a lion is SO hard!!! Tsalala really needs to team up with others. A dream world would see her find the Othawa's they all get along, and then find K12 and head south.
10-22-2024, 09:05 PM( This post was last modified: 10-22-2024, 09:21 PM by Duco Ndona )
That kinda makes sense. If it was two adult males and the PCmales werent there to intervene. It would have been so much worse. But with the PCmales part redacted, it only leaves those two really. Big enough to be an issue, but small enough for an adult lioness to handle.
Since this was basically Sororicide, it would have been interesting if the PCmales were there. Would they attack defend their own daughter, but risk hurting their other son and daughter?
(10-22-2024, 07:25 PM)KM600 Wrote: Once again shows they’re not yet as serious as they need to be, u can’t fully see his backend but I don’t imagine it’s any worse than what we can already see, the inside of his right left looks fine. If they want to keep Nkuhuma Pride they need to take advantage of these altercations, only a matter of time before PCMs come back and it’s either fight or flight, tho I have no doubt they’ll run from 2 PCMs when together, especially with the Kambula 4 being split atm.
No point of killing Kruger male there and risking injuries, he is no threat to them as lone nomadic male.
I’m not saying they should have killed him, nor would I want that to happen, Kruger Male has risen to become one of my favourites. If we looking at his injuries tho it’s a lil blood on his leg and probably nothing more, I doubt it’s even got him limping. This is a male who’s been roaring in the North in the past week and prolly started doing it again recently after finding Nkuhumas once again, he’s not some lone nomad who’s just trying to get by, he’s trying to reinsert himself as a dominant male in the area, that warrants much more of a response by the Kambulas.
(10-22-2024, 09:05 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: That kinda makes sense. If it was two adult males and the PCmales werent there to intervene. It would have been so much worse. But with the PCmales part redacted, it only leaves those two really. Big enough to be an issue, but small enough for an adult lioness to handle.
Since this was basically Sororicide, it would have been interesting if the PCmales were there. Would they attack defend their own daughter, but risk hurting their other son and daughter?
I still really have no idea on how the PCMs would interact with the two subs, whether Tsalala and cubs are involved or not. There has been no interaction between them, that I am aware of, since their mother's passing. I do not even know if PCMs would recognize them at this point, or the two subs for that matter. Barring any injuries to the youngsters, I really hope we can find out what that interaction might look like, eventually, as it is an area of lion behavior we have barely been able to witness, and I find it fascinating.
