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Lions of Sabi Sands
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Amahle in pursuit of WideNose and Kambula female last night :
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 (11-10-2021, 04:06 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Amahle in pursuit of WideNose and Kambula female last night : I do believe they had a little scuffle over who should mate with the lioness. Which would explain their injuries. Third male was not here which explains how he is in good condition 
Update from a Guide at Mala Mala
Northern Avocas are on the property close to the boundary - far from the Ndhzengas They don’t have any injuries 
Dunno. The wounds sound a bit to serious for that.
I am leaning towards a clash with the Avocas. But we have to wait till we get more information to know for sure. What we know now is a bit to vague for my taste.
Update from Londolozi Instagram story on Sunday :
1 of Bboys (assuming Tinyo) is all the way east on Kruger boundary, its unknown where Nhenha is, according to Londolozi, they completely vacant Londolozi. Somebody said they where seen at eastern MalaMala far away from te clash after that. Looks like Bboys are staying hell away from this fight, which is smart, in east is plenty "empty" area with no males (Fourways pride area) where they can potentialy settle with Kambulas and cubs, if N'ws dont pursuit them. (11-10-2021, 05:14 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Update from Londolozi Instagram story on Sunday : The Kruger males aren’t around that area? 
Good to get clarification:
-Bboys were long gone on Sunday and not even in the area or roaring by Sunday night… - N Avocas answered the call and it looks like dragged the N’Ws all the way to MM main camp - I’m sure the Avocas then wisely moved off (no physical fight happened or something minor since they have no injuries) when the N’Ws arrived in Mala Mala - N’W are now fully focused on the females. I don’t think they’ll cross the sand river IMO and just go up and down that area in Mala Mala. (11-10-2021, 06:42 PM)Gijima Wrote: Good to get clarification: I mean Avocas basically didn't lose nothing, only ground they claimed from Bboys in the past year or so and 2 females with who they where mating of which 1 is infertile and wont produce cubs anyway. But now Avocas campaign to claim central Sabi Sands in future and inherit Bboys there went downhill, if 4 N'ws stay there, theres no way they can expand in that direction anymore. For now Avocas need to secure their borders and see whats the best move in future, they also need to answer to PC boys who are trying to steal their older females. Also reunion with DM will be now or never, Mohawk and Blondie prob realize they need numbers afterall. Its amazing how lions dynamic in whole area changes in a span of 4-5 days out of nowhere, this was truly blitzkrieg from N'ws, again showing us that future is impossible to predict in the wild.  (11-10-2021, 06:42 PM)Gijima Wrote: Good to get clarification:I already said that a ranger said the Bboys (one or both) were roaring on their western border during the Nwaswitshaka push. Was probably Nhenha. Weird thing is Londolozi is using Nhenha's roar in the video. Nhenha has a unique roar presumably because he hurt his vocal cords when he was younger. His roar has a squeak before he belts. Probably just an effect for the video. So they probably weren't "long gone" but it is safe to assume that they've been spending less time on Londozi which prompted the Nwaswitshaka to push. It was yesterday that it was reported they were on a Buffalo Carcass east of their territory and that's probably where Londolozi got their information. Rangers didn't know where the Bboys were today. But if Tinyo was at a Buffalo carcass east of their territory, it would last him and the 3 lionesses and cubs a few days to eat off that. Dunno what Nhenha was doing but it's safe to say from both Timbevati and I that he was the one roaring on the border. 
Earlier today one of the Styx Pride cubs had its eyes firmly fixed on something in the distance. Hopefully their fathers will return to the south very soon to protect them and the Southern Pride.
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(11-10-2021, 08:23 PM)Slayerd Wrote:(11-10-2021, 06:42 PM)Gijima Wrote: Good to get clarification:I already said that a ranger said the Bboys (one or both) were roaring on their western border during the Nwaswitshaka push. Was probably Nhenha. Weird thing is Londolozi is using Nhenha's roar in the video. Nhenha has a unique roar presumably because he hurt his vocal cords when he was younger. His roar has a squeak before he belts. Probably just an effect for the video. So they probably weren't "long gone" but it is safe to assume that they've been spending less time on Londozi which prompted the Nwaswitshaka to push. It was yesterday that it was reported they were on a Buffalo Carcass east of their territory and that's probably where Londolozi got their information. Rangers didn't know where the Bboys were today. But if Tinyo was at a Buffalo carcass east of their territory, it would last him and the 3 lionesses and cubs a few days to eat off that. Dunno what Nhenha was doing but it's safe to say from both Timbevati and I that he was the one roaring on the border. I don't know why "long gone" is controversial. There is a good timeline of the events that @Tr1x24 posted in the N'W thread using official, verified reports. If Tinyo was near the Kruger boundary on Sunday that is way outside his territory and far from the action that unfolded Mon-Wed. I've only seen one video of Nhenha and he was roaring over the weekend. I don't know anything about them being on a carcass. Being is eastern Mala Mala near the boundary is not at all relevant to the action that's going on on the other side of the Sand River between Avocas and N'W, and that's all I meant. Also I would like to wait for official reports because some of the stuff posted here, like "bloody footprints leading north" was wrong. That's not to say people are purposely misleading but things are changing at a rapid pace and we need to wait for actual verified facts. Someone mentioned naming sources and I get it-- sometimes sources don't want to be named-- but that also means we can't trust every unnamed source either because there's no way for us to fact check what's being shared. (11-10-2021, 09:51 PM)Gijima Wrote:(11-10-2021, 08:23 PM)Slayerd Wrote:(11-10-2021, 06:42 PM)Gijima Wrote: Good to get clarification:I already said that a ranger said the Bboys (one or both) were roaring on their western border during the Nwaswitshaka push. Was probably Nhenha. Weird thing is Londolozi is using Nhenha's roar in the video. Nhenha has a unique roar presumably because he hurt his vocal cords when he was younger. His roar has a squeak before he belts. Probably just an effect for the video. So they probably weren't "long gone" but it is safe to assume that they've been spending less time on Londozi which prompted the Nwaswitshaka to push. It was yesterday that it was reported they were on a Buffalo Carcass east of their territory and that's probably where Londolozi got their information. Rangers didn't know where the Bboys were today. But if Tinyo was at a Buffalo carcass east of their territory, it would last him and the 3 lionesses and cubs a few days to eat off that. Dunno what Nhenha was doing but it's safe to say from both Timbevati and I that he was the one roaring on the border. It's information directly from a ranger so... It isn't false. That's just what the Mala Mala rangers saw. Who know what bloody tracks it was. Which is why I said it's safe to assume to Avocas were pushed back. The Nwaswitshaka do have wounds and we didn't exactly know where those came from. The reason long gone is controversial is because a Gowrie Male was roaring west of the property and one was seen east of their territory on a Buffalo kill. You saying that isn't close to their territory is also false because Bboys have been seen multiple times in that area on carcasses. Such as Nhenha and the Kambula on a giraffe carcass last year.  (11-10-2021, 10:08 PM)Slayerd Wrote:(11-10-2021, 09:51 PM)Gijima Wrote:(11-10-2021, 08:23 PM)Slayerd Wrote:(11-10-2021, 06:42 PM)Gijima Wrote: Good to get clarification:I already said that a ranger said the Bboys (one or both) were roaring on their western border during the Nwaswitshaka push. Was probably Nhenha. Weird thing is Londolozi is using Nhenha's roar in the video. Nhenha has a unique roar presumably because he hurt his vocal cords when he was younger. His roar has a squeak before he belts. Probably just an effect for the video. So they probably weren't "long gone" but it is safe to assume that they've been spending less time on Londozi which prompted the Nwaswitshaka to push. It was yesterday that it was reported they were on a Buffalo Carcass east of their territory and that's probably where Londolozi got their information. Rangers didn't know where the Bboys were today. But if Tinyo was at a Buffalo carcass east of their territory, it would last him and the 3 lionesses and cubs a few days to eat off that. Dunno what Nhenha was doing but it's safe to say from both Timbevati and I that he was the one roaring on the border. Weren't the Avocas seen without any scratches or signs of a fight after everything unfolded? I don't think the injuries on the N'ws came from an altercations with the Avocas, probably fighting each other over females. (11-10-2021, 10:17 PM)sik94 Wrote:(11-10-2021, 10:08 PM)Slayerd Wrote:(11-10-2021, 09:51 PM)Gijima Wrote:(11-10-2021, 08:23 PM)Slayerd Wrote:(11-10-2021, 06:42 PM)Gijima Wrote: Good to get clarification:I already said that a ranger said the Bboys (one or both) were roaring on their western border during the Nwaswitshaka push. Was probably Nhenha. Weird thing is Londolozi is using Nhenha's roar in the video. Nhenha has a unique roar presumably because he hurt his vocal cords when he was younger. His roar has a squeak before he belts. Probably just an effect for the video. So they probably weren't "long gone" but it is safe to assume that they've been spending less time on Londozi which prompted the Nwaswitshaka to push. It was yesterday that it was reported they were on a Buffalo Carcass east of their territory and that's probably where Londolozi got their information. Rangers didn't know where the Bboys were today. But if Tinyo was at a Buffalo carcass east of their territory, it would last him and the 3 lionesses and cubs a few days to eat off that. Dunno what Nhenha was doing but it's safe to say from both Timbevati and I that he was the one roaring on the border. Exactly. And source is this that said N’W Males had puncture wounds on their back… which would come from fighting rival males not fighting for mating right. And bloody footprints leading north implies lions were seriously hurt or killed…. So I won’t nit pick the “long gone” statement when we have much more seriously issues with misinformation here. |
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