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Lions of Sabi Sands
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 (12-18-2022, 11:04 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Those will likely end up the same. The curse is more that they were born as male lions, which often live brutal and short lives. I actually have a question about this bloodline stuff. Using the Mapogos as an example, what is the difference between a Mapogo daughter + male with seperate bloodline vs Mapogo son + female with seperate bloodline? I know in humans, some people wish for sons because they carry on the last name/family name, but is there a scientific reason or something that would apply to other animals? 
Some sex specific stuff aside. The difference would genetically be very small.
But due to the huge difference in life a male or female lion will have. A lioness has a far bigger chance of surviving and raising offspring. So a specific trait has a far larger chance of being passed on if it ends up in a lioness. Its just that due to the whole Mapogo and Lion King thing. Lots of people are more interested in following male lions.   *This image is copyright of its original author can you imagin this lion Cub was the Legendery ( HIP SCAR ) Majingilane male lions ? Back to early 2006 ?  *This image is copyright of its original author between Skukuza and Tshokwane in Kruger National Park .Thanks to Brothers (( Hasan Mohammed Brahim Khaddaoui )) to correct me that both ( the cub and the prime male lion ) is the Same lion . The photo for the prime Hip scar Majingilane By :- Anthony Goldman . The photo for the small Hip scar by :- Craig Tambling .  (12-19-2022, 06:06 AM)Ahmed Ali Wrote: Great finding Ahmed. If I’m fact, it’s Hip-scar. That’s fantastic. Thank you for sharing  *This image is copyright of its original author the Old leeupan/Mantimahle male and his cubs from Mantimahle Dam pride watching them some of these cubs are the 5 males known as Majingilane back to late 2005/early 2006 .Created By :- unknown yet .  *This image is copyright of its original author Mantimahle Dam pride Sub adults with adult female back to August 2009 in S34 few km from Tshokwane picnic spot .Ofcourse we know these faces ? .  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author photos By :- Geal Lafoond .
 
For some reason, that young female is with him. She could have stayed with her pride as her fathers, the Southern Avoca males, remain under the control of her pride.
(12-19-2022, 01:13 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Apperantly this is Plains Camp sub male, son of S. Avocas at Sabi Sabi, he was with some other lions:It's fantabulous... As if two plain camp boys were not enough, one more rises to horizon. Just came to know that this boy has a few more brothers but they are way too young , just one years old. Avoca coalition in total has already produce sizable legacy in talamati, nkuhuma, sand river and plain camp pride.  (12-19-2022, 02:06 PM)lionuk Wrote: For some reason, that young female is with him. She could have stayed with her pride as her fathers, the Southern Avoca males, remain under the control of her pride. Young females also go through an exploratory phase like young males do, they form a breakaway if there are enough of them and return to the pride if not. They usually hangout with their brothers during this exploratory phase as they are all young and still figuring things out, and this sighting is exactly that. Btw, that young male definitely has that PC blood, you can tell from the physical similarities. We usually put emphasis on similarities to fathers of individuals, but prides also have characteristics that get passed down. For example the Mbiri pride definitely has a certain look and you can recognize a Mbiri instantly no matter who was the father. (12-19-2022, 04:01 PM)sik94 Wrote: Young females also go through an exploratory phase like young males do, they form a breakaway if there are enough of them and return to the pride if not. They usually hangout with their brothers during this exploratory phase as they are all young and still figuring things out, and this sighting is exactly that. Yea, pride was also prob near by, they occasionaly hang around Lion Sands /Kirkmans Kamp from time to time. That male looks quite developed for a 3 year old.  
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@Xiku_kutsu genetically there's no difference between a daughter and son, both have 50% of the father's genes, the other 50% comes from the mother.
Humans wish for their favorite lions to have sons because most think males are cooler and wish to follow their sons after the father dies. But in terms of having a successful bloodline, the lion's chances will be greater if they have daughters, just look at how successful the 6 Majingilane daughters of the Kambula pride are and compare them to their brothers who despite reaching independence and some even become dominant, still failed tragically. |
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