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(02-08-2025, 02:32 PM)Mwk85 Wrote: PC male and Gingerella's daughters chased the Tumbela male away from the Ximhungwe lioness's den site. According to Inyati he was seen loitering around.
Sad to say but for the future of those cubs it is better the PCM get rid of Tumbela male asap. I can't understand how they haven't killed him yet...
While trying not to be biased towards him, given he is one of my favorite lions, only going off of what we have seen for so many years of following him, and while he is a male lion, making anything possible, I do not believe he is a threat to any cubs, certainly not at this stage. Even when he and Limper were dominant of the Othawa Pride, and they would slip away and spend time with the Xim lioness and her little daughter, neither one of them ever showed aggression towards her daughter. Since then he has been around cubs of other prides, including most recently the Manghenis, and did not harm the cubs. The Mangheni cubs were actually much more aggressive towards him, than he towards them, they were even smacking him while feeding, and he didn't even smack back. For all the documented times of his being around the cubs from other prides, I have yet to see a single instance of aggression towards any of them. His behavior around cubs is one of the many reasons I try to follow him so closely, as I find it fascinating.
(02-08-2025, 02:32 PM)Mwk85 Wrote: PC male and Gingerella's daughters chased the Tumbela male away from the Ximhungwe lioness's den site. According to Inyati he was seen loitering around.
Sad to say but for the future of those cubs it is better the PCM get rid of Tumbela male asap. I can't understand how they haven't killed him yet...
While trying not to be biased towards him, given he is one of my favorite lions, only going off of what we have seen for so many years of following him, and while he is a male lion, making anything possible, I do not believe he is a threat to any cubs, certainly not at this stage. Even when he and Limper were dominant of the Othawa Pride, and they would slip away and spend time with the Xim lioness and her little daughter, neither one of them ever showed aggression towards her daughter. Since then he has been around cubs of other prides, including most recently the Manghenis, and did not harm the cubs. The Mangheni cubs were actually much more aggressive towards him, than he towards them, they were even smacking him while feeding, and he didn't even smack back. For all the documented times of his being around the cubs from other prides, I have yet to see a single instance of aggression towards any of them. His behavior around cubs is one of the many reasons I try to follow him so closely, as I find it fascinating.
Hi. I was going to say older lions most of the time do not try and harm cubs. I was going to say like Hary belly, Southern Avoca. Tumbela male lion was nomadic and alone maybe that is why he is just trying to get a meal. Also baby cubs are vulnerable. Happy the Plain camp male lions one of them around and Gingerellas daughters were around to help. Same love she showed Gingerella and her daughters now they are helping her. Really hoping for her cubs to grow up and be happy.
Not sure who this young male is, but he must have called out sick on "Hunting Technique Training Day", as I am not sure that simply walking into a herd of impala is the best strategy. I also do not believe I have ever seen a bunch of impala running after a lion before, but it certainly gave me a chuckle. Very strange interaction at Nkorho Bush Lodge.
(Yesterday, 01:42 AM)BA0701 Wrote: Not sure who this young male is, but he must have called out sick on "Hunting Technique Training Day", as I am not sure that simply walking into a herd of impala is the best strategy. I also do not believe I have ever seen a bunch of impala running after a lion before, but it certainly gave me a chuckle. Very strange interaction at Nkorho Bush Lodge.
Prolly from Torchwood Pride, Deon seen them over at Nkorho the other day. These behaviours are always interesting to see, the Impalas know he causes atleast some threat to them but almost playfully follow him along for a few seconds, maybe leading on from his somewhat playful run. Impalas always seem to be the most peaceful with the presence of lions, and I think it’s partly cos they know lions aside from a blind ambush, have almost no chance at catching them. Atleast that’s what it seems like to me anyways, there’s some intelligence in them for sure.
These goofy videos are amongst my favourites. A jackal biting Olobors tail in the Mara comes straight to mind thinking of them, it would bite his tail then back off incase of any reaction, and normally there was none cos he was more concerned with going back to sleep, so the second he lay his head back down the jackal would then go at his tail again. I can’t remember there being any food around either, the jackal was solely doing that for his own entertainment.
(Yesterday, 01:42 AM)BA0701 Wrote: Not sure who this young male is, but he must have called out sick on "Hunting Technique Training Day", as I am not sure that simply walking into a herd of impala is the best strategy. I also do not believe I have ever seen a bunch of impala running after a lion before, but it certainly gave me a chuckle. Very strange interaction at Nkorho Bush Lodge.
Prolly from Torchwood Pride, Deon seen them over at Nkorho the other day. These behaviours are always interesting to see, the Impalas know he causes atleast some threat to them but almost playfully follow him along for a few seconds, maybe leading on from his somewhat playful run. Impalas always seem to be the most peaceful with the presence of lions, and I think it’s partly cos they know lions aside from a blind ambush, have almost no chance at catching them. Atleast that’s what it seems like to me anyways, there’s some intelligence in them for sure.
These goofy videos are amongst my favourites. A jackal biting Olobors tail in the Mara comes straight to mind thinking of them, it would bite his tail then back off incase of any reaction, and normally there was none cos he was more concerned with going back to sleep, so the second he lay his head back down the jackal would then go at his tail again. I can’t remember there being any food around either, the jackal was solely doing that for his own entertainment.
Ha, I have seen that video of the jackal and Olobor so many times, it cracks me up to this day. I love that video!
I don't think it was a hunting attempt. He more or less was just looking for a injured Impala, but the Impalas already knew there were some lions around so they started some mild mobing.
Three of the Monwana young males were seen around Nkorho earlier today on the WildEarth stream. Guessing the fourth one is still doing his own thing somewhere.
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(Yesterday, 05:54 AM)Mwk85 Wrote: Three of the Monwana young males were seen around Nkorho earlier today on the WildEarth stream. Guessing the fourth one is still doing his own thing somewhere.
Hopefully they don’t leave, I think they could be real good for Mhangenis, but if they were to leave whether temporarily or permanently, hopefully they go find their other brothers and start moving as a coalition from there.
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Oh no first they left their 5th brother in timbavti hopefully they don’t leave the 4th boy with the mhangenis even tho I think he’d be fine he could play a guardian type of role for the pride plus he’s not too old I don’t think he’s 4 years old yet
(Yesterday, 02:17 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Oh no first they left their 5th brother in timbavti hopefully they don’t leave the 4th boy with the mhangenis even tho I think he’d be fine he could play a guardian type of role for the pride plus he’s not too old I don’t think he’s 4 years old yet
Tumbella might have worked his way into a place he shouldn't. I am not sure he could really manage being chased at this point. No word yet on his status after the "chase."
(Yesterday, 02:17 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Oh no first they left their 5th brother in timbavti hopefully they don’t leave the 4th boy with the mhangenis even tho I think he’d be fine he could play a guardian type of role for the pride plus he’s not too old I don’t think he’s 4 years old yet
Hi so I have a question where they five or six?
so I believe the story of the young Monwana males is as follows but happy to be corrected. There were 6 young males in the Monwana pride around the time of the Black Dam males takeover. However, one was quite younger than the others. The "older" 5 fled away, succesfully, around the time Black Dams took over. I do not know what happened to this young one that stayed in the pride / area.
The 5 were then sighted together a few times in Timbavati. Also, 3 were sighted in Manyeleti (altercation with Red Road and Nharus). Then only 4 migrated to Sabi Sands (so not 5). And now 4 are still in SS, but 3 of them together currently.
