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Lions of Sabi Sands

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Be careful Floppy Ear.
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NK&Talamati at Sabi Sabi, moving south:



I think its best for them to move south in Kruger and try to find some less competitive area around Skukuza, theres no future for them in SS atm.
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(11-08-2024, 07:30 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: Little Amber back mating with the light/ginger-maned Mantimahtle male on WildEarth this morning. It's such a shame, and I feel like if the Kambula males had mated with her (they kept rejecting her for some reason), she wouldn't have gone off to find other males.


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She did mate with K3, K4, K6 already and do not know why she kept treading a fine line with both coalitions, but she may be endangering the other Nkuhumas specially the subadults, its already good that Kambulas are tolerating the 4 subadults (3female and 1male) and we do not know what the Mantimahles will do bu seems like they will definetly kill them as they have more experienced in lion warfare. If the Mantimahle tried to go for the Nkuhumas and if the Kambulas and Mantimahles did go to a fight no one is safe as the testosterone of male lions will be so high and no one can expect on what will the 2 coalitions will do to the Nkuhuma Pride if they are so aggressive because of the testosterone levels being high. If she gets caught mating with the Mantimahles by the Kambulas or vice versa she may be in a dangerous position as she may be harmed or killed.
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(11-08-2024, 07:51 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: NK&Talamati at Sabi Sabi, moving south:



I think its best for them to move south in Kruger and try to find some less competitive area around Skukuza, theres no future for them in SS atm.

They can also go North to Manyeleti to the Nharu or Mbiri Pride, for Nharu Pride it only got one male Red Road and Red Road's age is definitely coming for him. For the Mbiri Pride they really need new males genetic wise because if Mandevu and Orpen Jr. Son (do not know what exactly the name of the younger lion w/ Mandevu) there will be inbreeding as Mandevu and the other male is related to the pride.
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(11-08-2024, 01:14 AM)afortich Wrote: Scar summary (Kambulas, Kruger male, Gijimas and more) 11.07.24





So, I know sometimes Scar isn't fully accurate in these posts, but does anybody have any details on Light Maned Gijima.  I have to say, I haven't seen any pictures or proof of life either, and I know Dark Mane has been contact calling for him, but nothing with them together since the chase occurred.
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(11-08-2024, 08:25 PM)sunless Wrote: They can also go North to Manyeleti to the Nharu or Mbiri Pride, for Nharu Pride it only got one male Red Road and Red Road's age is definitely coming for him. For the Mbiri Pride they really need new males genetic wise because if Mandevu and Orpen Jr. Son (do not know what exactly the name of the younger lion w/ Mandevu) there will be inbreeding as Mandevu and the other male is related to the pride.

Unlikely they go north, as neither of these 2 have tendecy (especially NK) to go even in northern sector of SS, which is their natal area, since they moved out of it. 

Their nomadic traverse tendecy is western sector - southern Sabi Sands, and both went further south into Kruger before.

Neither of them has been to Manyeleti since they become nomads.
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That is definitely not a Ntsevu female with the Styx young male. Probably Kambula.
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(11-08-2024, 08:20 PM)sunless Wrote:
(11-08-2024, 07:30 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: Little Amber back mating with the light/ginger-maned Mantimahtle male on WildEarth this morning. It's such a shame, and I feel like if the Kambula males had mated with her (they kept rejecting her for some reason), she wouldn't have gone off to find other males.


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She did mate with K3, K4, K6 already and do not know why she kept treading a fine line with both coalitions, but she may be endangering the other Nkuhumas specially the subadults, its already good that Kambulas are tolerating the 4 subadults (3female and 1male) and we do not know what the Mantimahles will do bu seems like they will definetly kill them as they have more experienced in lion warfare. If the Mantimahle tried to go for the Nkuhumas and if the Kambulas and Mantimahles did go to a fight no one is safe as the testosterone of male lions will be so high and no one can expect on what will the 2 coalitions will do to the Nkuhuma Pride if they are so aggressive because of the testosterone levels being high. If she gets caught mating with the Mantimahles by the Kambulas or vice versa she may be in a dangerous position as she may be harmed or killed.

She has probably mated with them at some point, but we've seen mutliple reports and occassions (even on WildEarth) where she's trying to entice them into mating, and they don't seem to be interested. And we haven't heard of them doing this with any of the other lionesses. I don't think it's a coincidence that this has happened multiple times and she's the only Nkuhuma lioness that's saught out other males while the other lionesses all seem happy to stay with the Kambulas. That was my point.
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(11-08-2024, 07:44 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: FE Styx joined 2 Kambula or Ntsevu females at Umkumbe:



Only this female on picture.

Could this not be a Styx lioness? Going by the spotiness of her hind legs, she seems quite young. And that would make more sense than him being with Kambulas, who have no reason to tolerate his presence.
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Makes more sense yes.  Unless Floppy is looking for K12, who was recently seen with N'Was males, and maybe is back with one of these prides....
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(11-08-2024, 10:03 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: Could this not be a Styx lioness?

Could be Bboys Styx female, it makes sense.

She also has sucking marks, Kambulas offspring is too old for that.
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(11-08-2024, 11:32 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(11-08-2024, 10:03 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: Could this not be a Styx lioness?

Could be Bboys Styx female, it makes sense.

She also has sucking marks, Kambulas offspring is too old for that.

I more had in mind one of the Ndzenga girls. Not sure how old the Bboy Styx girl is, but I imagine she's relatively close in age to the eldest Nkuhuma lionesses. It's difficult to tell in this photo but it seems this girl still has some pink in her nose, plus the faint spots on her legs, neither of which Pale Eyes or Ridge Nose's daughter has. But well observed about the suckle marks, as that does seem to rule out Kambulas, but could be Bboy Styx or Ndzenga Styx. Hopefully we'll get more information.
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(11-08-2024, 07:51 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: I think its best for them to move south in Kruger and try to find some less competitive area around Skukuza, theres no future for them in SS atm.
Idk about most coalitions at Skukuza but im pretty sure the closest to Sabi Sand in Kruger are Nkuhlus, besides them, the 3 Tshokwanes. They are not in the best health and mostly seen in pair, since one has a heavy limping. I think Nk and Tym could be a fair match for them.
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(11-08-2024, 08:33 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: So, I know sometimes Scar isn't fully accurate in these posts, but does anybody have any details on Light Maned Gijima.  I have to say, I haven't seen any pictures or proof of life either, and I know Dark Mane has been contact calling for him, but nothing with them together since the chase occurred.
The male contact calling the video is actually Light Maned Gijima. Im almost sure both Gijimas are safe and accounted for. It was said to be a minor altercation, just a persecution that he found himself heavily outnumbered and this time, wisely retreated.
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(11-08-2024, 11:32 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(11-08-2024, 10:03 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: Could this not be a Styx lioness?

Could be Bboys Styx female, it makes sense.

She also has sucking marks, Kambulas offspring is too old for that.

I think it is the Styx female, I read yesterday she was pregnant too.
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