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Lions of Sabi Sands
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 (10-23-2024, 09:48 PM)Mapokser Wrote: I think NK Breakaways could have attacked Tsalala and PCM attacked S.Avoca & Kruger male at the same time. I wish we'd get some news on S Avoca, he's just been moving around, nomadic, trying to survive, since his brother was killed. Be a real shame if he got killed over simply being in the wrong place wrong time, as I have not seen anything from him that suggest his desire to become territorial/dominant again. Kruger Male seems quite the opposite, not sure he's ready for retirement just yet. 
I want to know about them Kruger Males Notch-eared Male, Smudge-nose Male what are their current position? They were the same males who were with Torchwood pride and Fourway Pride in 2021 I am attaching the Pic and Pic credit goes to owner
As I hoped would appear, the full video of the Kambula pride/Styx male/Kambula males encounter.
 (10-23-2024, 10:37 PM)BA0701 Wrote:(10-23-2024, 09:48 PM)Mapokser Wrote: I think NK Breakaways could have attacked Tsalala and PCM attacked S.Avoca & Kruger male at the same time. It would be sad for S. Avoca to go out like that, but there is a weird part of me that does think that's the way he wants to go out and has tried a few times. I really think he was testing the 4 Kambula boys a while back when he joined them, and they just didn't care. We haven't seen the Othawa girls in a long time, maybe he found them and is spreading the wealth.... (10-24-2024, 12:46 AM)NLAL11 Wrote: As I hoped would appear, the full video of the Kambula pride/Styx male/Kambula males encounter. So who all is here? I thought Styx male was much further south. Is this the 2 Kambula males come back home? Where were the N'Was boys? I have so many questions here....  (10-24-2024, 12:46 AM)NLAL11 Wrote: As I hoped would appear, the full video of the Kambula pride/Styx male/Kambula males encounter. Sad scene how buffalos where still defending and licking their fallen friend in hope that he will stand up. Also, those subs are quite brave, unfortunatley their uncles show up. (10-23-2024, 11:49 PM)Robiee9291 Wrote: I want to know about them Kruger Males Notch-eared Male, Smudge-nose Male what are their current position? They were the same males who were with Torchwood pride and Fourway Pride in 2021 I am attaching the Pic and Pic credit goes to owner Hello @Robiee9291, welcome to WildFact! I moved your post to the proper thread, we do not allow the creation of new threads, without a Mod's prior approval. Just as we do with all new members, we'd ask that you read through the forum rules, which I will link at the bottom of this post. I will also link to our tutorial section, in case you should have any questions on how to perform certain actions on the site. If you have any further questions, feel free to contact myself, or any of our other Mods, via PMs. We hope you enjoy your time here, and look forward to your contributions to the site! WildFact Forum Rules WildFact Tutorial Section (10-24-2024, 12:56 AM)T_Ferguson Wrote:(10-23-2024, 10:37 PM)BA0701 Wrote:(10-23-2024, 09:48 PM)Mapokser Wrote: I think NK Breakaways could have attacked Tsalala and PCM attacked S.Avoca & Kruger male at the same time. I'm not sure I can believe any lion would ever try to intentionally close out the show, or would wish for that outcome, when they spend their entire lives in the harshest living environments imaginable, simply trying to survive. 
Also, the prefered method for lions to dispatch rivals is not to kill them, but to wound them to the point of no longer being a threat. Often condemning them to a slow misserable death.
Not really something a lion would seek out. (10-24-2024, 01:05 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(10-24-2024, 12:46 AM)NLAL11 Wrote: As I hoped would appear, the full video of the Kambula pride/Styx male/Kambula males encounter. That's one of the longest scenes I've seen of buffalos staying to defend an already fallen member of their herd. Not even two years old and already charging at buffalo to drive them away. These boys are going to be spectacular when they get older. And expert buffalo hunters I would imagine. (10-24-2024, 02:14 AM)BA0701 Wrote:(10-24-2024, 12:56 AM)T_Ferguson Wrote:(10-23-2024, 10:37 PM)BA0701 Wrote:(10-23-2024, 09:48 PM)Mapokser Wrote: I think NK Breakaways could have attacked Tsalala and PCM attacked S.Avoca & Kruger male at the same time. I agree. I also think lions, really all life has emotions, and for S. Avoca, I still think he's sad. Maybe saying he's trying to suicide by combat is wrong. Maybe he's just trying to find a new place to fit in and is willing to risk whatever to find it. Most likely he'll turn up again here in the coming days. Maybe he'll end up like his brother, and just... not be here anymore. It's just hard sometimes following these creatures, because it's not like an episode of big brother. So much of their lives is out of our view.. For Damn good reason. 
Just want to say a lot of ppl have had something to say about the S.Avoca ever since the news about the altercation with Tsalala lioness - most of us believing he could have been involved at first. In terms of some ppl already believing something bad might have happened to him, or atleast starting to hint that, this is the same male who was hard to spot even as a dominant male with his brother, although part of that was because they frequently went into KNP. Since he’s become nomadic, he’s by far the least spotted male in Sabi Sands, surely meaning he’s great at avoiding attention.
Can I guarantee that he’s safe and well this very second, no, but I think it’s a bit too early to believe such things. Kruger Male was spotted in the North by himself just after they had joined forces and left for the West, but as we know they ended up rejoining. They prolly have a good enough connection to stick with each other but obviously not a bond that is inseparable, hence the splitting up already, a bond which we wouldn’t expect given their unfamiliarity with each other. 
Interesting reaction by the Kambula females when the Kambula males arrive. You could see that there were no cubs or subs around when the males approached, they were long gone for obvious reasons: they saw 2 unknown adult male lions coming.
But 3 females, of which the last I think was the K5 female, aunt to K5 & K3 males ( and mother of K6 ), were slow to retreat, barely registering the males as a serious threat, almost waiting to see if they would be allowed to feed with them, and once they took the carcass, the females basically walked away, K5 female was in no hurry and basically made no attempt to actually flee, she just walked off believing the males wouldn't attack her. Could it be coincidence or did these lions, to some degree, recognized one another? While it has been a little over 2 years since the males were ousted by Ndhzengas, there was a more "recent" sighting, once, in Londolozi I believe, of one of the OG Kambulas sleeping with the Breakaways, the 4 males and sister, it was even reported at the time as "Ntsevu males with 2 Ntsevu females", this was way way after the other sister rejoined the pride btw, it wasn't her, but one of the mothers, also we don't see everything that happens with these lions and both the pride and the males spent a lot of time in Londolozi throughout these last 2 years, it could be that they had some smaller interactions here and there, even if just hearing one another, making so they wouldn't forget about each other completely. I'd be willing to say they may recognize each other to some degree, as "friendly" faces. If after more than a year split, the Ntsevu and Kambula prides were able to share a kill together without aggression, cubs included without being attacked, the Kambula males and their sisters and mothers, if they meet, may not see one another as complete strangers, acting as aggressive as they'd to unknown, unrelated enemy lions.
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Hard to tell, if they didnt interact fairly recently, last time Kambula females seen these 2 where when they had barely any mane, and now they have full manes, so idk if they could recognize them by looks, maybe by familiar scent from the past, but it was quick interaction, so idk if they even sniffed them. I think its more likely that 2 males recongize them, mostly by location, which is their natal area where they grow up, so they prob know, this is prob our natal pride. This stuff is hard to know. As for agression, females know these 2 want food, not them. (10-24-2024, 11:32 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: @Mapokser When I saw the two Kambula male lions coming. There was two things I was thinking about; their size and how it did not look aggressive. They almost look loving and kind. A face of concern, and their reaction was I think like of a brother. Male lions with lioness would be the same reaction; that is what it looked like to me. Lioness leaving at the did not look worried. If it was other male lions I think it would have been different. If it was the two Ndhzenga male lions it would have been similar. I do not think they would have harmed the sub adults, but I think they left because they did not know them. |
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