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Croatia Tr1x24 Offline
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Looks like Sand River young male :

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(09-26-2023, 03:13 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Looks like Sand River young male :

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Seen an update about him recently in a video but had just landed so didn’t have time to send it, didn’t know the S.Avocas had offspring this old.
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Apperantly Ximhungwe female also has cubs:

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(09-26-2023, 04:36 PM)KM600 Wrote:
(09-26-2023, 03:13 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Looks like Sand River young male :

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Seen an update about him recently in a video but had just landed so didn’t have time to send it, didn’t know the S.Avocas had offspring this old.

Yup
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(09-27-2023, 07:36 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Apperantly Ximhungwe female also has cubs:


Combined into a new pride?! So should we call them the ximhungwe-othawa Pride then?
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Just Ximhungwe. The Othawa pride is still around and Gingerella pretty much joined Ximhungwe who was already a resident there.
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(09-27-2023, 08:50 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Just Ximhungwe. The Othawa pride is still around and Gingerella pretty much joined Ximhungwe who was already a resident there.

Oh ok the savanna reserve said a new pride I thought we would go with that
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Gingerella is still called an Othawa Breakaway by rangers even now, but the pride in itself is only called Ximhungwe.

But anyway with NK hopefully not returning, it all comes down to Tumbela, if he doesn't show interest in killing the cubs then their chances are actually decent now if PCM remains in power.
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(09-28-2023, 12:44 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Gingerella is still called an Othawa Breakaway by rangers even now
As she should be, because that is who she is.
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I think its from facebook. Which are rarely used by the guides themselves. 

When I hear breakaway. My first thought is of a couple of lionesses splitting of from the main pride deliberatly. Gingerella doesnt really fit that to be honest as she mostly got screwed over by the lion dynamics at the point where young lionesses typically have to earn their spot in the pride. So she is more a nomadic OYF, or Othawa young female.

I can see the need for naming though as there often are multiple of those. But it wouldnt hurt if some groundrules are established. So we dont end up with 20 Darkmanes, lions named after their relatives and stuck in their shadow. Or really crappy names like Bobkiller. The names from Swahili or other local languages often are the best
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( This post was last modified: 04-30-2024, 09:46 AM by Mapokser )

Most of SS never name their lions, only using the name of their natal pride or maybe naming a coalition by the local they were first seen, but almost never individual names unless the lions are in the north then they can gain names like Dark Mane, Blondie and Mohawk, or even african names I guess.

On Mara they name almost everybody with local african names, which honestly I find cool sometimes but it's way too much, even subadults have their own names and it's impossible to keep track of all the names, though the advantage is that we don'tget many repeated names.
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Duco Ndona Offline
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A happy compromise is probably to only name them once they reach the age when its clear they survived the perils of youth.
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(09-28-2023, 03:17 AM)Duco Ndona Wrote: When I hear breakaway. My first thought is of a couple of lionesses splitting of from the main pride deliberatly. Gingerella doesnt really fit that to be honest as she mostly got screwed over by the lion dynamics at the point where young lionesses typically have to earn their spot in the pride.
Break away means one is born in a direct pride, but at some point break away from it and this particular female fit in this definition perfectly. She is not Ximunghwe female and has nothink to do with Ximunghwe pride lineadge.
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Duco Ndona Offline
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Except she never broke away. She was kicked out.
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