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I think there are enough lionesses without cubs and few enough youngsters for them to survive a takeover when new males inevitably arrive. Let's hope so anyway. But the Orpen male might be starting his nomadic journey soon.
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6 or 7 (I’m unclear still) members of the Mbiri Pride that are back on their territory. Based on what Tristan has messaged me with, the Orpen daughter, isn’t among them and still incertain about any of the cubs. Also one lioness have not been seen back.
10-20-2023, 10:53 PM( This post was last modified: 10-20-2023, 10:53 PM by BA0701 )
(10-20-2023, 08:21 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: 6 or 7 (I’m unclear still) members of the Mbiri Pride that are back on their territory. Based on what Tristan has messaged me with, the Orpen daughter, isn’t among them and still incertain about any of the cubs. Also one lioness have not been seen back.
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I still have to think the pride having left was the result of the Mbiris boys coming in and chasing them. However, as I understand it, Ncila and Mandevu were already gone when that took place, so there is still no understanding of what caused them to leave, unless, perhaps, they had an interaction with the Mbiris that we are not aware of. In those recent pics of Ncila, he has some sort of wound to his lower back (near his hip) that is leaking, could possibly be a bite. No telling when and where he got that, or who delivered it.
(10-20-2023, 08:21 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: 6 or 7 (I’m unclear still) members of the Mbiri Pride that are back on their territory. Based on what Tristan has messaged me with, the Orpen daughter, isn’t among them and still incertain about any of the cubs. Also one lioness have not been seen back.
Credit: vestment
I still have to think the pride having left was the result of the Mbiris boys coming in and chasing them. However, as I understand it, Ncila and Mandevu were already gone when that took place, so there is still no understanding of what caused them to leave, unless, perhaps, they had an interaction with the Mbiris that we are not aware of. In those recent pics of Ncila, he has some sort of wound to his lower back (near his hip) that is leaking, could possibly be a bite. No telling when and where he got that, or who delivered it.
Yes. Ncila did have a minor puncture in his hip. Ziggy did make a remark about it but seems minor
10-20-2023, 11:37 PM( This post was last modified: 10-21-2023, 12:05 AM by Tr1x24 )
(10-20-2023, 10:53 PM)BA0701 Wrote: so there is still no understanding of what caused them to leave
I dont think anything significantly happen.
Its normal for males to try expand/shift territority and abandon former pride after 1.5 - 2 years, especially if there is no available females for mating and they are strong enough to do so.
This would prob happen last year already if Ncile was not snared and lost 1 year because of recovery.
(10-20-2023, 08:21 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: 6 or 7 (I’m unclear still) members of the Mbiri Pride that are back on their territory. Based on what Tristan has messaged me with, the Orpen daughter, isn’t among them and still incertain about any of the cubs. Also one lioness have not been seen back.
Credit: vestment
Ok, I received a new update from Trystan and it’s very optimistic news.
8 of the 11 Mbiris have been accounted for and that count includes all sub adults. There are 3 adult females not present but Trystan says that he’s seen what he believes at least two in a separate Group. It could be that the non mothers and the mothers are in separate groups maybe in estrus idk
(10-20-2023, 08:21 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: 6 or 7 (I’m unclear still) members of the Mbiri Pride that are back on their territory. Based on what Tristan has messaged me with, the Orpen daughter, isn’t among them and still incertain about any of the cubs. Also one lioness have not been seen back.
Credit: vestment
Ok, I received a new update from Trystan and it’s very optimistic news.
8 of the 11 Mbiris have been accounted for and that count includes all sub adults. There are 3 adult females not present but Trystan says that he’s seen what he believes at least two in a separate Group. It could be that the non mothers and the mothers are in separate groups maybe in estrus idk
That is great to hear. Is Lambile still with the main group? I feel terrible for him, his brothers having left, being in such poor health.
(10-20-2023, 08:21 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: 6 or 7 (I’m unclear still) members of the Mbiri Pride that are back on their territory. Based on what Tristan has messaged me with, the Orpen daughter, isn’t among them and still incertain about any of the cubs. Also one lioness have not been seen back.
Credit: vestment
Ok, I received a new update from Trystan and it’s very optimistic news.
8 of the 11 Mbiris have been accounted for and that count includes all sub adults. There are 3 adult females not present but Trystan says that he’s seen what he believes at least two in a separate Group. It could be that the non mothers and the mothers are in separate groups maybe in estrus idk
That is great to hear. Is Lambile still with the main group? I feel terrible for him, his brothers having left, being in such poor health.
He wasn’t w them on that day but is on the property
(10-20-2023, 08:21 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: 6 or 7 (I’m unclear still) members of the Mbiri Pride that are back on their territory. Based on what Tristan has messaged me with, the Orpen daughter, isn’t among them and still incertain about any of the cubs. Also one lioness have not been seen back.
Credit: vestment
Ok, I received a new update from Trystan and it’s very optimistic news.
8 of the 11 Mbiris have been accounted for and that count includes all sub adults. There are 3 adult females not present but Trystan says that he’s seen what he believes at least two in a separate Group. It could be that the non mothers and the mothers are in separate groups maybe in estrus idk
That is great to hear. Is Lambile still with the main group? I feel terrible for him, his brothers having left, being in such poor health.
He wasn’t w them on that day but is on the property
Thank you for this my friend. Dark Mane stuck with the pride after his brothers moved on, and he was still quite successful, hopefully Lambile's story can have a similar arc.
