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(05-04-2023, 12:40 AM)criollo2mil Wrote:
(04-22-2023, 08:17 AM)Mdz123 Wrote:
(04-21-2023, 09:30 PM)Mwk85 Wrote: New cubs in the Nharu Pride 


What would be the latest composition of the pride?

if we add these two cubs:

3 Original Nharu Lionesses (BBoy Sisters) 
2 Nharu Daughter Lionesses (Tumbela Sisters)
5 RRM Daughters 
2 RRM Sons
2 Cubs
If only we know exactly what happened to the other two RRM sons. Hopefully they were not casualties to other conflicts. If they were pushed out It would be that only two were pushed out. Arent all four of his sons roughly the same age?
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(05-04-2023, 02:47 AM)Robot00 Wrote:
(05-04-2023, 12:40 AM)criollo2mil Wrote:
(04-22-2023, 08:17 AM)Mdz123 Wrote:
(04-21-2023, 09:30 PM)Mwk85 Wrote: New cubs in the Nharu Pride 


What would be the latest composition of the pride?

if we add these two cubs:

3 Original Nharu Lionesses (BBoy Sisters) 
2 Nharu Daughter Lionesses (Tumbela Sisters)
5 RRM Daughters 
2 RRM Sons
2 Cubs
If only we know exactly what happened to the other two RRM sons. Hopefully they were not casualties to other conflicts. If they were pushed out It would be that only two were pushed out. Arent all four of his sons roughly the same age?

I asked both Tristan and Bill Drew and it’s suspected that RRM pushed them out in the period he began to mate with the females again.   As it was commented here before, he was seen being increasingly more aggressive toward them on occasions.   

The litters of the Nharu were spread out about over 4 months or so.   So it could be the two were from the older litters and remaining two from younger ones 
Now, this leaves us wondering still of course.   Will we ever see them again?  Will we know them?   Not sure how many good record we have of them that we would be able to pick out it’s them if seen again.   Questions I’m left with.
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( This post was last modified: 05-12-2023, 03:10 PM by Horizon )

Alistair said before that Lambile is of not much use in these fights. He hardly even roars. Ncile had the most scars after the battle with RRM and he is the most feisty one in the coalition before he fell into the human trap. Now, Ncile kicked out of coalition, not a chance to see off this onslaught. These boys know Zigzag’s scent, they want nothing to do with it.
Just painful to watch this development.
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Zig Zag reminds me of a giant Tinyo with those elbow tufts. 

I hope the 2 Mbiris end up vacating the area As the Mbiri pride could use some fresh unrelated blood. 

Mandevu, Lambile, and Ncila need to get their act together and start working as a team.... together.... all 3. Without Ncila they have no chance as Lambile is not in the best shape.
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(05-12-2023, 03:08 PM)Horizon Wrote: Alistair said before that Lambile is of not much use in these fights. He hardly even roars. Ncile had the most scars after the battle with RRM and he is the most feisty one in the coalition before he fell into the human trap. Now, Ncile kicked out of coalition, not a chance to see off this onslaught. These boys know Zigzag’s scent, they want nothing to do with it.
Just painful to watch this development.

These events unfolded about ten days ago.   Mbiris were testing the limits I guess  cause they’ve been since seen on H7 near Orpen.


Mandevu is their leader and I’ve been weary of how he hasn’t re-accepted Ncilla back into the fold.    I feel it will eventually be his undoin.   Ncila is at the moment as or better condition than Lambile.   

Lambile btw was indeed roaring.   Alistair’ she remarks are maybe biased based on backstories.
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Even before Mbiris "invaded" northern parts of Tintswalos territory, even mating with Mbiris, but didnt push further.

Mbiris like to "test" their limits, in search for avaiable females, they did it with all their neighbours over the years, in all directions (Ross males, Tintswalos, H7 males).

As for Lambile, idk if he would be useful in a fight, but he is roaring and patroling.

Not sure on the current status of Ncile.
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Ranger recently claimed Mandevu and Lambile go on territorial patrols. We haven’t seen Lambile going on territorial partols but rangers may have.
What we also saw is Mandevu going alone on territorial patrol and scent marking at the edge of Mbiri males’ territory, even ventured into the latter’s territory. Also, Ncile is not on territorial partols anymore since he got stuck in that snare.
It’s likely Mbiris sensed the lack of strength/numbers in the scent marking and decided to venture out into Tintswalo’s territory.
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(05-12-2023, 04:55 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Not sure on the current status of Ncile.

He was shown in last video looking pretty good and Tristan and Bill Drew said was with the pride.  

But is isn’t Ideal that seemingly he isn’t accepted as a patrolling member.

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(05-12-2023, 03:08 PM)Horizon Wrote: Just painful to watch this development.
It always depends from whose point of view we look into this. For example it is fortunate turn of events for the Ross males and their females and youngsters.

Mbiris as nearly always are on the war path. It should be rather easy takeover for them. Tintswalo males shouldn't be any near strong enough to compete with Mbiri males. Also most of Mbiri females should be willing to accept new males taking over.
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(05-12-2023, 04:44 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: These events unfolded about ten days ago.  
Mbiri males left the Tintswalo territory? Or they staying put since?
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(05-12-2023, 05:06 PM)Horizon Wrote: Ranger recently claimed Mandevu and Lambile go on territorial patrols. We haven’t seen Lambile going on territorial partols but rangers may have.

Lambile is literaly there with Mandevu, and even roaring in the beginning.

Later on he is behind of Madevu, obiviously he is not as confident given his condition.

With Mandevu seeing that Lambile is hesitant, he decides to retreat aswell.

Shame for Ncile, he was the most dominant and most agressive pre- snare incident.

This would be interesting clash with healthy Ncile and Mandevu.
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(05-12-2023, 05:08 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: He was shown in last video looking pretty good and Tristan and Bill Drew said was with the pride.  

But is isn’t Ideal that seemingly he isn’t accepted as a patrolling member.

He looks good, but looks like his confidence/dominance is not yet there, he still behaves submissive to his brothers and is sticking close to the pride for food.

And not sure if Mandevu/Lambile is to blame here, as Ncile most likely doesnt want to do territorial jobs at this point.
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