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Lion Predation

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(03-29-2019, 09:03 AM)Spalea Wrote:
(03-29-2019, 08:02 AM)Styx38 Wrote:
(03-29-2019, 12:34 AM)Spalea Wrote: @Styx38 

About #611: hell of a performance ! This lioness kills lonely a subadult giraffe, weighing, from its look, between 800 and 1000 kilos, that is to say 6 times its own weight... Like

The giraffe seemed to be a full grown adult.

No, a full adult giraffe has a more developed stature: longer and broader neck, stronger morphology.

Look at these ones and compare:

https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-big-her...fe#pid2638

Actually, the giraffe seems to be an adult female:



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https://focusedcollection.com/171713550/stock-photo-male-female-giraffes-natural-reserve.html
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(03-29-2019, 10:41 PM)Styx38 Wrote:
(03-29-2019, 09:03 AM)Spalea Wrote:
(03-29-2019, 08:02 AM)Styx38 Wrote:
(03-29-2019, 12:34 AM)Spalea Wrote: @Styx38 

About #611: hell of a performance ! This lioness kills lonely a subadult giraffe, weighing, from its look, between 800 and 1000 kilos, that is to say 6 times its own weight... Like

The giraffe seemed to be a full grown adult.

No, a full adult giraffe has a more developed stature: longer and broader neck, stronger morphology.

Look at these ones and compare:

https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-big-her...fe#pid2638

Actually, the giraffe seems to be an adult female:



*This image is copyright of its original author





*This image is copyright of its original author



https://focusedcollection.com/171713550/stock-photo-male-female-giraffes-natural-reserve.html

OK, let us consider the giraffes on the first photo of the #615:

The biggest one have its horns (also called ossicones...) far broader and its snout is clearly less slim. The biggest giraffe is an adult definitely, and the smallest giraffe a juvenile female, clearly slimer. And look at the biggest giraffe's coat: far darker...

And now look at the giraffe that was killed by the lioness (#611): this giraffe has the same characteristics and the same juvenile morphology than the smallest one on your first photo at #615:
light coat, slim snout and small horns.

Thus, the lionness killed a juvenile, or subadult giraffe.
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( This post was last modified: 03-30-2019, 02:02 AM by Styx38 )

(03-30-2019, 12:46 AM)Spalea Wrote:
(03-29-2019, 10:41 PM)Styx38 Wrote:
(03-29-2019, 09:03 AM)Spalea Wrote:
(03-29-2019, 08:02 AM)Styx38 Wrote:
(03-29-2019, 12:34 AM)Spalea Wrote: @Styx38 

About #611: hell of a performance ! This lioness kills lonely a subadult giraffe, weighing, from its look, between 800 and 1000 kilos, that is to say 6 times its own weight... Like

The giraffe seemed to be a full grown adult.

No, a full adult giraffe has a more developed stature: longer and broader neck, stronger morphology.

Look at these ones and compare:

https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-big-her...fe#pid2638

Actually, the giraffe seems to be an adult female:



*This image is copyright of its original author





*This image is copyright of its original author



https://focusedcollection.com/171713550/stock-photo-male-female-giraffes-natural-reserve.html

OK, let us consider the giraffes on the first photo of the #615:

The biggest one have its horns (also called ossicones...) far broader and its snout is clearly less slim. The biggest giraffe is an adult definitely, and the smallest giraffe a juvenile female, clearly slimer. And look at the biggest giraffe's coat: far darker...

And now look at the giraffe that was killed by the lioness (#611): this giraffe has the same characteristics and the same juvenile morphology than the smallest one on your first photo at #615:
light coat, slim snout and small horns.

Thus, the lionness killed a juvenile, or subadult giraffe.

Nope, it's an adult female giraffe. Juveniles are too small, and would have been easily taken down by a Lion.

Edit:

This Giraffe Cow has the same proportion as the Giraffe killed by the lion:


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The acceleration and agility are beyond amazing ... Survival King for a reason Wow Overpowers the prey ...

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(04-13-2019, 08:06 PM)Sanju Wrote: The acceleration and agility are beyond amazing ... Survival King for a reason Wow Overpowers the prey ...


That is for sure odd looking lion Wink
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(04-13-2019, 08:16 PM)Shadow Wrote: That is for sure odd looking lion Wink
Joking Sorry my bad.
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(04-20-2019, 06:11 AM)Sully Wrote: Not sure if this has been posted before so I apologise if it has. Contrary to the title this is a lioness.




This same thread and #594 has longer clip for this same incident without music but with a guy filming it telling what happened :)
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Honey badger is quite interesting animal, but when lion is hungry.... still you can´t blame this little one for not trying. 




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I´m not sure if this has been here before. But after seeing some footage where lion cubs are playing with honey badgers and how many are then saying (half joking), that honey badger´s don´t care. Reality is still, that hungry lion cares even less Wink

https://www.wildcard.co.za/lion-honey-badger-desperate-struggle/

People love to see "underdogs" doing well, but in wildlife reality is... brutal.
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(04-20-2019, 09:49 AM)Shadow Wrote:
(04-20-2019, 06:11 AM)Sully Wrote: Not sure if this has been posted before so I apologise if it has. Contrary to the title this is a lioness.




This same thread and #594 has longer clip for this same incident without music but with a guy filming it telling what happened :)
Uhhh................that looks a lot like a lion to me
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A hungry cub pushes a mother lioness to face off a dangerous adult Warthog.
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(04-29-2019, 11:45 AM)Sanju Wrote:



A hungry cub pushes a mother lioness to face off a dangerous adult Warthog.

That is part of documentary below, which was posted in lion pictures and videos thread sometime ago. That lioness and cub lived some time period so, that lioness hunted almost only warthogs :) They are good prey when there are no bigger antelopes at the time. This documentary is worth to watch if not seen before :)




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While two male giraffes fight over a female, the Baobab pride plans an attack. They are determined, so few play the role of "chasers" and drive him towards "stalkers" who ambush. As, that fails, they coordinately chase it by shifting positions and job of chasing one after other when predecessor individual tires - similar to AWD but not that efficient and long distance chase downs. Still that strategy didn't pay off. Poor giraffes has no vocalization which are lost during prolonged neck evolution.
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(04-30-2019, 11:38 AM)Sanju Wrote:




While two male giraffes fight over a female, the Baobab pride plans an attack. They are determined, so few play the role of "chasers" and drive him towards "stalkers" who ambush. As, that fails, they coordinately chase it by shifting positions and job of chasing one after other when predecessor individual tires - similar to AWD but not that efficient and long distance chase downs. Still that strategy didn't pay off. Poor giraffes has no vocalization which are lost during prolonged neck evolution.

Giraffe is really a magnificent animal, and so very capable to fight back. Whenever lions are able to take down one, it is really an achievement. When watching for instance in youtube all those videos about spectacular and successful hunts it is easy to forget, that success rates of big cats aren´t so impressive :) Tigers have about 5-10% and lions something like 20% if I remember right but I guess, that when lion hunts alone, quite same as what tigers have. Giraffe is without a doub´t an animal which takes overall success rate down and big time :)
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I just come to discover this video... A male lion killing an hyena at Masai Mara.
I am surprised to see how the lion is able to come so close to the hyenas without being spotted by the hyenas. The green is short, this lion is big and...






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