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Kambula/Ntsevu Pride

Poland NLAL11 Offline
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Kambula lioness (core pride) and some cubs on a buffalo kill. Then a couple of days later more Kambula lionesses with cubs, looks like K5 and the daughters.




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1/6 original Kambula lioness and Ndhzenga male years ago, credits to MalaMala:


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The original Kambulas are very large lionesses.
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(11-05-2023, 10:15 AM)Mapokser Wrote: The original Kambulas are very large lionesses.

Wow! I always read you guys talking about how big those lionesses are but I never really could grasp it until this pic you posted! Holy cow! Thats a HUGE lioness. She's gotta be 200kg?
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@BigLion39 200kg is way too much for any lioness I'd say. The male with her is pretty small.

They look big close to him and other males larger than him but still probably below average to average:

1/6 original Kambula with the bigger Ndhzenga:


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Largest of the of the 6 original Kambulas with fuller-maned BDM:


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1/6 with fuller-maned Matshipiri male:


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But I think a 200kg male would easily be bigger. Othawa male and Nhenha who I think were quite above average looked decently larger than Kambulas.
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The Kambula rest on our airstrip as inclement weather rolls in
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(11-06-2023, 11:30 PM)Mapokser Wrote: But I think a 200kg male would easily be bigger. Othawa male and Nhenha who I think were quite above average looked decently larger than Kambulas.

Yeah maybe I exaggerated on 200kg from my shock on the size of her but she is big. The 3rd pic you posted is that OM or Nhena, I'm not sure. But for me not a good comparison. She's crouched down and he's standing all the way straight, tall. The Nwaswishaka and her, they're both upright and tall, equal. I would put money on in the 3rd pic if she was upright she would be almost exact height of that male. You have any other pics for comparison? I'm intrigued to see if she was as tall as OM or Nhena.
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@BigLion39 

Nhenha and OM are not in the photos I posted, first one in the last post is a Black Dam Male, the other photos show a Kambula with a Matshipiri male. It was to show that she is also big compared to him.

I don't have photos with OM and Nhenha, but it was posted in one of the threads here a few months ago, the photos aren't as good comparison wise but it sort of shows they were larger and there was a video of Nhenha with the biggest Kambula and he was taller.
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Trying their best to keep warm, some of the cubs from the Ntsevu pride huddle together in a tight little bundle. Unusual for this time of year, but it was a rather chilly and windy day.
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4 Kambula lionesses, looks like the BBoy daughters, and 7 or 8 cubs at 1:37. They sure do like crossing rivers.




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Anyway we can get a cub headcount? I believe k8 just gave birth to 4 cubs but lost 1
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Does anone knows if the remaining 1/3 cub from the elder Kambula who lost contact with their mother and joined the core pride is still alive among the 13 Kambula cubs? Because this lioness and her sister are denning new cubs, while K6 was sighted both alone and with the core pride in the last month.

THE KAMBULA PRIDE = 23
2 ADULT FEMALES 10 YEARS 8 MONTHS
2 ADULT FEMALES ± 10 YEARS 5 MONTHS
5 ADULT FEMALES ± 5 YEARS 4 MONTHS
1 ADULT FEMALE 4 YEARS 6 MONTHS
9 CUBS 0 YEARS 11 MONTHS
1 CUB 0 YEARS 9 MONTHS
3 CUBS 0 YEARS 4 MONTHS
MALAMALA, FLOCKFIELD, NORTHERN CHARLESTON
(47 sightings)

Another successful month for the Kambula pride, with at least 13 growing cubs and more expected,
as two of the more estranged females seem to have made Campbell Koppies their den site, showing
clear signs of suckle marks. Members of this pride spent 17 of their total sightings with the two
Ndhzenga males who are diligently defending their territory to provide a safer environment for their
offspring to thrive.

Noteworthy sightings:

• On the 1st, five lionesses and at least 10 cubs were at Mamba Waterhole.

• The bulk of the pride, including the three youngest cubs, were with their mothers and the two
Ndhzenga males on the 5th, feeding on a zebra carcass near the confluence of the Ngoboswan
Donga and the Sand River.

• They were near the Airstrip for the next two days.

• On the 10th, six lionesses with 13 cubs were with the Ndhzenga males at West Street Bridge
where they killed a waterbuck and fed on it until the 12th.

• On the 13th, two of the estranged lionesses were at the Mlowathi Spot. They caught a zebra
foal the next day north of Cambell Koppies.

• On the same day, the 13th, the rest of the pride were far south in their territory, south of the
western parts of the Rock Drift Donga, where they caught an impala lamb.

• On the 14th, they were with the two Ndhzenga males at Lion Rocks while the other two females
were back at the Mlowathi Spot, where they were joined by a third female.

• On the 18th, the two Ndhzenga males were with five lionesses and all 13 cubs at the Old
Airstrip. Two of the more estranged females were at Mlowathi Springs.

• There was a very well-fed lioness at the Broken Dam on the 20th and the 21st.

• On the 22nd, five lionesses and only four cubs were at Sandpit Crossing, while the remaining
six cubs were at the Windsock.

• That afternoon, one of the lionesses was with the two Ndhzenga males, north of the Sausage
Spot when the males killed an impala lamb.

• The next day they were all together again with only one of the youngest cubs and one of the
Ndhzenga males present. They were in the Sand River south of Kikilezihash Crossing. In the
afternoon, two of the lionesses chased the Stone Drift female away and climbed a small
Jackalberry to retrieve her impala lamb kill, before heading back towards the rest of the pride.

• On the 24th, two lionesses chased the Flat Rock male leopard up a tree on the most eastern
koppie of Campbell Koppies.

• On the 25th, these two lionesses were west of Campbell Koppies when the Ndhzenga male
met up with them. They both showed clear signs of suckle marks, and it is thought that they
are using Campbell Koppies as a den. They were seen on and around Campbell Koppies again
on the 26th and the 29th.

• Five lionesses with 11 cubs (only one of the youngest cubs) were resting in the shade of a
sycamore fig tree north of Styx Crossing on the 26th.

• On the 27th, five lionesses and 11 cubs were with the two Ndhzenga males finishing up a zebra
carcass east of Dudley Lookout. They spent the next day digesting in the Sand River at Old
Dudley Crossing.

• The same morning, the other two lionesses killed an impala in the Sand River at Sable Camp.

• On the 29th, five lionesses were with the oldest 10 cubs at Vulture Waterhole while the three
youngest cubs were left alone south of the Tamboti Thickets. Another lioness, without any
cubs, was west of Bicycle Crossing on the same day.

• On the 30th, one of the Kambula lionesses met up with her three cubs south of the Tamboti
Thickets and took them back to the rest of the pride at Kapen Rocks with the two Ndhzenga
males in tow.
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(12-12-2023, 03:39 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Does anone knows if the remaining 1/3 cub from the elder Kambula who lost contact with their mother and joined the core pride is still alive among the 13 Kambula cubs? Because this lioness and her sister are denning new cubs, while K6 was sighted both alone and with the core pride in the last month.

THE KAMBULA PRIDE = 23
2 ADULT FEMALES 10 YEARS 8 MONTHS
2 ADULT FEMALES ± 10 YEARS 5 MONTHS
5 ADULT FEMALES ± 5 YEARS 4 MONTHS
1 ADULT FEMALE 4 YEARS 6 MONTHS
9 CUBS 0 YEARS 11 MONTHS
1 CUB 0 YEARS 9 MONTHS
3 CUBS 0 YEARS 4 MONTHS
MALAMALA, FLOCKFIELD, NORTHERN CHARLESTON
(47 sightings)

Another successful month for the Kambula pride, with at least 13 growing cubs and more expected,
as two of the more estranged females seem to have made Campbell Koppies their den site, showing
clear signs of suckle marks. Members of this pride spent 17 of their total sightings with the two
Ndhzenga males who are diligently defending their territory to provide a safer environment for their
offspring to thrive.

Noteworthy sightings:

• On the 1st, five lionesses and at least 10 cubs were at Mamba Waterhole.

• The bulk of the pride, including the three youngest cubs, were with their mothers and the two
Ndhzenga males on the 5th, feeding on a zebra carcass near the confluence of the Ngoboswan
Donga and the Sand River.

• They were near the Airstrip for the next two days.

• On the 10th, six lionesses with 13 cubs were with the Ndhzenga males at West Street Bridge
where they killed a waterbuck and fed on it until the 12th.

• On the 13th, two of the estranged lionesses were at the Mlowathi Spot. They caught a zebra
foal the next day north of Cambell Koppies.

• On the same day, the 13th, the rest of the pride were far south in their territory, south of the
western parts of the Rock Drift Donga, where they caught an impala lamb.

• On the 14th, they were with the two Ndhzenga males at Lion Rocks while the other two females
were back at the Mlowathi Spot, where they were joined by a third female.

• On the 18th, the two Ndhzenga males were with five lionesses and all 13 cubs at the Old
Airstrip. Two of the more estranged females were at Mlowathi Springs.

• There was a very well-fed lioness at the Broken Dam on the 20th and the 21st.

• On the 22nd, five lionesses and only four cubs were at Sandpit Crossing, while the remaining
six cubs were at the Windsock.

• That afternoon, one of the lionesses was with the two Ndhzenga males, north of the Sausage
Spot when the males killed an impala lamb.

• The next day they were all together again with only one of the youngest cubs and one of the
Ndhzenga males present. They were in the Sand River south of Kikilezihash Crossing. In the
afternoon, two of the lionesses chased the Stone Drift female away and climbed a small
Jackalberry to retrieve her impala lamb kill, before heading back towards the rest of the pride.

• On the 24th, two lionesses chased the Flat Rock male leopard up a tree on the most eastern
koppie of Campbell Koppies.

• On the 25th, these two lionesses were west of Campbell Koppies when the Ndhzenga male
met up with them. They both showed clear signs of suckle marks, and it is thought that they
are using Campbell Koppies as a den. They were seen on and around Campbell Koppies again
on the 26th and the 29th.

• Five lionesses with 11 cubs (only one of the youngest cubs) were resting in the shade of a
sycamore fig tree north of Styx Crossing on the 26th.

• On the 27th, five lionesses and 11 cubs were with the two Ndhzenga males finishing up a zebra
carcass east of Dudley Lookout. They spent the next day digesting in the Sand River at Old
Dudley Crossing.

• The same morning, the other two lionesses killed an impala in the Sand River at Sable Camp.

• On the 29th, five lionesses were with the oldest 10 cubs at Vulture Waterhole while the three
youngest cubs were left alone south of the Tamboti Thickets. Another lioness, without any
cubs, was west of Bicycle Crossing on the same day.

• On the 30th, one of the Kambula lionesses met up with her three cubs south of the Tamboti
Thickets and took them back to the rest of the pride at Kapen Rocks with the two Ndhzenga
males in tow.

Ironic that the two lionesses that seem to be forming a breakaway, though Mala Mala refers to them as 'estranged', are denning at the koppies after which the original pride was named.

Seems K6 is moving between the core and breakaway prides, and sometimes on her own. I wonder which one she'll stick with in the end. I imagine she's lost her status as most dominant in the core pride, from videos we saw in the past it doesn't seem like the Birmingham daughters accept her as 'top girl'.

@Mapokser Difficult to say for sure, but wasn't he/she the 11th cub? And there's only mention of 10, and then the younger litter of three, so I would surmise he didn't make it.
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I just to discover this video and didn't see in this topic. The Kambula pride killed one buffalo and while the adult lions and lionesses were eating it, the buffalos herd crossed them again on its path and wanted to chase away. But the lions held their ground...







" - Three Ndhzenga males and lionesses from the Kambula pride fend off a herd of buffalo bulls' futile attempt at rescuing a fallen compadre.
- Elephants.
- The Toulon pack of wild dogs.
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