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Kambula/Ntsevu Pride

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(09-06-2024, 09:38 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: Footage of all 7 Ntsevu cubs at a den site. Not sure when taken. All of them looked like they could use a good meal.





The two older cubs look in bad condition. Could this be the skin disease mange? Saw somebody on youtube comments pointing it out. It is really good to see the older ones bonding with the younger siblings! But I hope the disease does not spread. We have seen it before in Sabi Sands (2016).

This cub's skin is not looking good.

Photo credit: MalaMala Game Reserve video

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(09-08-2024, 08:09 PM)MrLoesoe Wrote:
(09-06-2024, 09:38 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: Footage of all 7 Ntsevu cubs at a den site. Not sure when taken. All of them looked like they could use a good meal.





The two older cubs look in bad condition. Could this be the skin disease mange? Saw somebody on youtube comments pointing it out. It is really good to see the older ones bonding with the younger siblings! But I hope the disease does not spread. We have seen it before in Sabi Sands (2016).

This cub's skin is not looking good.

Photo credit: MalaMala Game Reserve video

Yes, they have been battling mange for months. Now the smaller litter is also fighting it. The mothers also. If they don’t eat regularly and help boost their immune systems, this can become deadly for these cubs. Sad .
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Kambulas, and Styx/K12 pair:




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Another ferocious time at the Kambula dinner table. I don't think I've ever seen it this savage.




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Different from their Northern brothers, the Kambula Birminghams seems to have inherited the aggressiveness of their mothers and perhaps the Ndhzenga cubs will as well.
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Posting for @Mapokser, the August MalaMala Report, borrowed from here:

https://malamala.com/monthly-game-reports/



THE KAMBULA PRIDE = 18
1 ADULT FEMALE ± 11 YEARS 2 MONTHS
4 ADULT FEMALES ± 6 YEARS 1 MONTH
9 CUBS 1 YEAR 8 MONTHS
1 CUB 1 YEAR 6 MONTHS
3 CUBS 1 YEARS 1 MONTH
MALAMALA, FLOCKFIELD, NORTHERN CHARLESTON
(24 sightings)


The members of the Kambula pride had a very successful month and were seen on numerous kills, five
of those being adult buffalo, aiding to their ever-growing task of feeding 13 cubs.


Noteworthy sightings:
On the 1st, the entire pride was with the Ndhzenga males in the Tamboti Thickets and the next
day, they were west of Tlebe Rocks with only 10 cubs.
The three remaining cubs were still in the Tamboti Thickets on the 3rd and the 4th.
On the 8th, they killed a buffalo south of the Causeway and remained in this area until the 10th.
On the 11th, they were joined by one Ndhzenga male to the east of Campbell Koppies, but
both males were with the pride at Kikilezihash Crossing the next day.
On the 13th, they were feeding on a buffalo kill south east of Styx Crossing and were at Styx
Rocks the next day.
They fed on another buffalo kill on the 17th west of MalaMala Camp and were joined by the
Ndhzenga males and the Ntsevu pride, who they have not been seen with in over a year. They
went their separate ways the next day.
On the 20th and 21st, they were seen at Mlowathi Dam, much further north than we have been
encountering this pride recently.
On the 22nd, they once again feeding on the remains of a buffalo kill, this time south of Stwise
and moved to Elephant Rock the next day.
They killed a nyala at Flockfield Pools on the 26th and were resting under West Street Bridge
the next day.
On the 30th, five lionesses and only 10 cubs were feeding on a zebra kill south of the Charleston
Flockfield Boundary, far east of the Sand River and were closer to the Windmill the next day,
where they were feeding on a buffalo kill in a drainage line system. They also had to chase the
young Kambula female and the young Styx male away from this area.

THE NTSEVU PRIDE = 10
2 ADULT FEMALES 11 YEARS 5 MONTHS
1 ADULT FEMALE ± 11 YEARS 2 MONTHS
3 CUBS 0 YEARS 9 MONTHS
4 CUBS ± 3 MONTHS
MARTHLY, EYREFIELD, MALAMALA
(23 sightings)


They members of the Ntsevu pride were seen half as much as last month, having spent most of their
time west of MalaMala. Unfortunately, all members of the pride are suffering from a bout of mange
but are still making kills regularly.


Noteworthy sightings:
All 10 members of the pride were in the Manyeleti River, east of Kigelia Crossing on the 1st
and two days later they were further west of Kigelia Crossing.
On the 6th, only the three older cubs were seen north of Stwise and the next day the lioness
with her four younger cubs was west of Kigelia Crossing.
All seven cubs were at the rocky den site in the Manyeleti River, east of Kigelia Crossing, on
the 11th but only four cubs were seen there the next day.
On the 13th, two lionesses and the older cubs were north of Elephant Rock, while the four
younger cubs were in the Manyeleti River, west of Kigelia Crossing. The third lioness was with
the Ndhzenga males east of Campbell Koppies.
All members of the pride were north of Campbell Koppies on the 16th, with the transient Styx
male and Kambula breakaway female intruding in their territory nearby.
On the 17th, for the first time in over a year, they joined the Kambula pride along with the
Ndhzenga males, at a buffalo kill south of the Sand River, west of Bicycle Crossing. But they
left them the next day and moved towards Matumi Rocks, where they stayed until the 20th.
On the 24th, they were joined by the Ndhzenga males in this area and only six cubs were seen
at Matumi Rocks on the 29th.
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(09-11-2024, 10:50 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Different from their Northern brothers, the Kambula Birminghams seems to have inherited the aggressiveness of their mothers and perhaps the Ndhzenga cubs will as well.

I don't think we can compare the Kambula males with their sisters. Males have to go out and make their place in the world, something the lionesses don't have to do. Plus we always see the boys on big kills (buffalo, hippo, elephant) so there is never the same scramble to get some food. I'm sure if one of them brought down an impala, you'd see very similar levels of aggression.

What I will say is, this next generation of Kambula ladies seem to have inherited their father's ability to bring down buffalo, as we can see in the Mala Mala report. Something their mothers struggled to get the hang of.
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Not Good.  This could get ugly real fast.  Poor cubs.



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On the heels of already having lost one cub to mange (from the younger litter of 4), the situation seems bleak.  

These are the older 3 cubs who have had mange for a longer period but are looking worse and worse by the day.   Wjat is doubly hard is that the two female cubs (whom we want to see beck e the future of the Pride, being smaller, are suffering a worse case.

The younger litter now of 3, would have a very very difficult time overcoming this level of aggressive outbreak.

I feel so bad seeing this.  They will need a miracle

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(09-15-2024, 02:13 AM)criollo2mil Wrote: On the heels of already having lost one cub to mange (from the younger litter of 4), the situation seems bleak.  

These are the older 3 cubs who have had mange for a longer period but are looking worse and worse by the day.   Wjat is doubly hard is that the two female cubs (whom we want to see beck e the future of the Pride, being smaller, are suffering a worse case.  

The younger litter now of 3, would have a very very difficult time overcoming this level of aggressive outbreak.

I feel so bad seeing this.  They will need a miracle

This is so sad.
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So is actually 9 kambula young males not 8 mind blown!!!
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(09-17-2024, 09:02 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Ok, I am a little confused. This video, having to do with male lions dominating crocodiles,  just popped into my YT feed, appears it is 2 years old. At 5:02, there is a nightvision, clip, of a male lion literally walking out to the middle of the river, surrounded by a bunch of crocs, to feed on an elephant carcass that the crocs were feeding on. While it is very impressive, for sure, what is confusing is what the female narrator of that clip says. I am not sure what show or documentary the clip is from, but is has that kind of narration to it. In it, she refers to the male lion as Notch, so I thought, OK, this is filmed in the Mara, but then a lioness appears on the river bank, and the narrator states she is from the Ntsevu pride. Does anyone recall this clip, and what male that might be?





Sounded like it might have been 'Nsefu pride', which I think I've seen clips of on YouTube.
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(09-17-2024, 09:02 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Ok, I am a little confused. This video, having to do with male lions dominating crocodiles,  just popped into my YT feed, appears it is 2 years old. At 5:02, there is a nightvision, clip, of a male lion literally walking out to the middle of the river, surrounded by a bunch of crocs, to feed on an elephant carcass that the crocs were feeding on. While it is very impressive, for sure, what is confusing is what the female narrator of that clip says. I am not sure what show or documentary the clip is from, but is has that kind of narration to it. In it, she refers to the male lion as Notch, so I thought, OK, this is filmed in the Mara, but then a lioness appears on the river bank, and the narrator states she is from the Ntsevu pride. Does anyone recall this clip, and what male that might be?





This is a compilation of videos my friend. I remember the first clip being from Disney's "African Cats" and the male lion in that clip was referred to as "Fang" with Notch being referred to as "Kali". The other clip looks like footage from WildEarth. The clip of the Nsefu pride refers to the Nsefu pride in Zambia's South Luangwa National Park and the video was from a documentary that follows the pride.
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(09-18-2024, 01:04 AM)NLAL11 Wrote:
(09-17-2024, 09:02 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Ok, I am a little confused. This video, having to do with male lions dominating crocodiles,  just popped into my YT feed, appears it is 2 years old. At 5:02, there is a nightvision, clip, of a male lion literally walking out to the middle of the river, surrounded by a bunch of crocs, to feed on an elephant carcass that the crocs were feeding on. While it is very impressive, for sure, what is confusing is what the female narrator of that clip says. I am not sure what show or documentary the clip is from, but is has that kind of narration to it. In it, she refers to the male lion as Notch, so I thought, OK, this is filmed in the Mara, but then a lioness appears on the river bank, and the narrator states she is from the Ntsevu pride. Does anyone recall this clip, and what male that might be?





Sounded like it might have been 'Nsefu pride', which I think I've seen clips of on YouTube.

Ah, I've not sure I've heard of them before. Are they in the Mara, do you know (so I can move the post to the proper location)? Also, that "Notch" doesn't look like the Notch I am familiar with, the Notch I am familiar with was an enormous beast, built like a tank, the Notch in the video seems noticeably thinner.
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