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Is Jaguar capable of killing big crocodiles ?

India sanjay Offline
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( This post was last modified: 08-22-2018, 10:26 PM by sanjay )

Ok, This question keep coming in my mind from time to time. And I really don't know if the Big Male and experienced Jaguar is capable of killing the big Crocodile or Alligator like Salt water corcos , Nile Crocodiles and American Alligators. We have seen great footage and photos of Caiman hunt by Jaguars.. even big size Caiman are not safe.. The plus point of Jaguar is, They are most capable hunter inside water compared to any other big cats.

The big male Jaguar
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The Big Saltwater Crocodile
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The Big Nile Crocodile
Big Nile Crocodile
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Big Alligator
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Would like to know your views.. Please be gentle during conversation .. this is not your favorite animal contest... so don't go mad.. remain unbiased with logical arguments.
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Certainly no. Even tiger 2-3 times their weight have problem killing big crocodiles. Then jaguar though supposedly stronger pound for pound than the tiger will definitely face many problems tackling huge crocodiles.
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( This post was last modified: 08-22-2018, 11:44 PM by epaiva )

(08-22-2018, 10:24 PM)sanjay Wrote: Ok, This question keep coming in my mind from time to time. And I really don't know if the Big Male and experienced Jaguar is capable of killing the big Crocodile or Alligator like Salt water corcos , Nile Crocodiles and American Alligators. We have seen great footage and photos of Caiman hunt by Jaguars.. even big size Caiman are not safe.. The plus point of Jaguar is, They are most capable hunter inside water compared to any other big cats.  

The big male Jaguar

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The Big Saltwater Crocodile

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The Big Nile Crocodile

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Big Alligator

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Would like to know your views.. Please be gentle during conversation .. this is not your favorite animal contest... so don't go mad.. remain unbiased with logical arguments.
Jaguars prey on large Caiman yacare and Caiman crocodilus with larger individuals a little over 2,50 meters long and 60 kilograms, my personal opinion is that they have no chance in hunting big crocs over 4 meters long they find in their natural habitat (Orinoco crocodiles, American Crocodiles or Black caimans) they are too much for a Jaguar. I think they are capable of hunting crocodiles up to 3 meters long.
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Germany Jeffrey Offline
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One factor would be, who suprises who first.
In water a jaguar wouldn't stand much of a chance against a nile or saltwater crocodile or a rather big aligator. On land it will be closer i highly doubt that a jaguar would kill a fully grown nile or saltwater crocodile cuz of the size weight advantages and crocodiles are also intelligent killers.
A jaguar could be capeable of killing crocodiles/alligators of up to 4 meters everything above would be a to high risk and could end up being killed itself.
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(08-22-2018, 11:36 PM)epaiva Wrote: I think they are capable of hunting crocodiles up to 3 meters long.

Completely agree with you - up to 3 meters. I guess the weights of these reptilia according their length should be:
- 2 meters long crocodile - around 80-90 kg
- 3 meters long - around 200-250 kg
- 4 m - 500-800 kg
- 5 m - up to 1 ton
- 6 m - up to 1,5 tons
As we can see in comparisons with large crocodiles jaguar is just a "shrimp"...  
Here is also important to point out what specie of crocodiles we mean. Typical crocodiles are much more aggressive and dangerous than the caimans and the aligators. The tree most aggressive species as long as I know are:
1.) Salt water crocodile 
2.) Nile crocodile
3.) Black caiman
Both tree a equally deadly dangerous for men when hungry, while salt water guy is aggressive even when its not hungry because the male is highly territorial and could attack you only because you entered his territory. That's way Salt water crocodile is not only the largest reptilia in the planet but also the most aggressive and dangerous of all crocodiles. From this tree only Black caiman inhabit the areal of the jaguar. Sanjay asked how big crocodile can be killed by jaguar but for me even more interesting is the opposite question - how big should be the black caiman in order to hunt and kill a jaguar inside the water? I think that any Black caiman 4 meters or more is deadly dangerous for the cat. Infourtunately this specie lives in so remote and inhabited areas that this is almost no documentary on the topic. @epaiva do you know any info in Spanish web concerning jaguar-black caiman relations?
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( This post was last modified: 08-27-2018, 12:39 AM by epaiva )

@Wolverine
Very good surprise to see that you found good information, you are right Black caimans are the most dangerous crocodilian to humans in South America normally they attack at night, Orinoco crocodiles and American crocodiles normally stay away from humans. I am trying to find information of big crocodilians interactions with Jaguars with out any luck, I totally agree with you a big Black caiman, Orinoco crocodile or American crocodile 4 meters or larger can hunt and kill a Jaguar, the best spot with the largest population of Black caimans today is Guyana. I will contact a Crocodile specialist named Robinson Botero-Arias who is doing a research on Black caimans in Brazil, lets wait to see if he has good information of their interaction.
First picture is a big Black caiman killed in Brazil, second picture credit to Dante Fenolio with the next information attached We found a dead Black Caiman on a tributary of the Amazon in Peru. Even with some of he tail missing, the body still measured 5,3 meters (17,38 feet). The skull measured 31 inches in length.

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A prime male Jaguar will not be able to tackle a prime male Black Caiman, even on land.
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