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Indo-Chinese and Malayan tigers

United Arab Emirates BorneanTiger Offline
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( This post was last modified: 06-03-2019, 07:25 PM by BorneanTiger )

This article by the National Geographic about the death of a Bengal tiger that looked poised to meet the Asiatic lion in the Indian State of Gujarat has an image of the body of an Indochinese tiger being carried by villagers, after it was killed following an attack on their village in Burma (Myanmar), 1922:
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( This post was last modified: 07-19-2019, 10:27 PM by BorneanTiger )

2 tigers spotted in the area of Terangganu, northeast Malaysia, with 1 of them caught. They are suspected to be pets:

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( This post was last modified: 08-04-2019, 12:47 PM by BorneanTiger )

(07-19-2019, 10:24 PM)BorneanTiger Wrote: 2 tigers spotted in the area of Terangganu, northeast Malaysia, with 1 of them caught. They are suspected to be pets:

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Bad and good news for the Malayan tiger: 

1) 1 of those tigers died from a viral infection:

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2) Thanks to rampant poaching, the number of tigers in Belum-Temenggor Forest has declined from 60 to 23 over a period of 7-8 years, raising fears of extinction:

3) Trust fund "Save the Malayan Tiger" fund gets a financial boost of 46,800 Malaysian Ringgit from the Malaysian Conservation Alliance for Tigers (MYCAT):
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India Rishi Offline

A recent survey showed that there are still wild tigers in Myanmar, maybe much more than we thought.

About 2 dozen tigers have been counted in only a fraction of the country's huge wildernesses that have the potential to hold tigers... There's been evidence of breeding too!

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Germany Lycaon Offline
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Very lovley to see tiger from thailand. In Mae Wong 

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Guatemala GuateGojira Offline
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Update: more male tigers from Thailand

I follow the webpage of the Thailand Tiger Project DNP in Facebook and I am impresed by all the data that they are collecting. They say that soon they will publish the information but they still need more date to imput.

Some of the details of those publications is that from time to time they publish sizes of captured tigers, specifically males! I manage to collect this list from the FB posts:

21 of August 2018: 4 males
1 - 189 cm HB and over 200 kg.
2 - 197 cm HB and 172 kg.
3 - 177 cm HB and 162 kg.
4 - 191 cm HB and 162 kg.

29 of March 2019: 1 male
No size, but weight of 180 kg.

4 of November 2019 (today): 1 male.
No size, but weight of 198 kg. 

So we have a total of 6 new weights, appart from the other 5 weights (from 4 specimens) in the document of 2012. The average weight of these new males will be 179 kg, BUT we must remember that the heaviest tigers did not weighed 200 kg but "OVER 200 kg", so the real average weight will be about 180 kg. The average figure from 2012 paper is of 182 kg, so based in this sample we can conclude that adult male tigers in Thailand average no less than 180 kg.

I will continue following the webpage, I will update the information everytime that I can.
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Australia Richardrli Offline
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Very cool to know that even the tiny population of modern Indochinese tigers are so significantly bigger than even the largest subspecies of jaguar.

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Tj Moody 
Caught New Guy, BUMI (meaning, "Earth"), Roaming All Over His New Digs at WPZ Today!
He is One of the Very Critically Endangered Subspecies,
the Malayan Tiger.
His Coat Color Is Quite Unique. I Thought I Had to Adjust My Camera Settings : P

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United Kingdom Sully Offline
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With fewer than 200 tigers left, Malaysia is facing a crisis

For WWF-Malaysia Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Sophia Lim, the time to act, and act fast, is now.

“Tigers are part of our Jata Negara (National Coat of Arms), and are in all our emblems. It is very important that the whole country rallies behind this cause, ” Lim tells Sunday Star during a recent interview at WWF-Malaysia headquarters in Petaling Jaya.

The biggest threat to tiger conservation in Malaysia comes from poaching. Poachers from Indochina, assisted by locals, hunt Malayan tigers due to the high demand for body parts to be used in traditional Chinese medicine and other purposes. To make things worse, last year the Chinese government reversed a 25-year-old ban on the trade in tiger bones for traditional medicine.

If nothing is done soon, we will forever lose the Malayan tiger, classified as critically endangered by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN), within the next five and 10 years, Water, Land and Natural Resources Minister Dr Xavier Jayakumar told parliament in March.

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Let it never happen again

An especially poignant moment in conservation for Lim was meeting Malaysia’s last Sumatran Rhino, Iman, who was then being cared for by specialists from the Borneo Rhino Alliance.

“Being up close and personal with her was a really touching moment for me. Knowing that she was the only one left made my heart reach out to her. We understand that they are solitary animals, but she must have been so lonely, ” says Lim, who describes Iman as being ‘chatty’ during their meeting.

In late November, Lim received a heartbreaking message informing her that Iman, who was battling cancer, was on her deathbed. Although Lim was determined to fly back to Sabah, unfortunately she did not make it in time to say her final goodbyes.

Iman’s death further drives Lim’s determination to save the tigers and prevent Iman’s story from ever happening again.

“My heart grieved but my mind was telling me that being sad is not enough. We need to act. We need to send a compelling message to Malaysians and the government.This is what led me to the tigers because they are the next to go extinct if we do not do anything, ” says Lim.

One area in need of immediate attention is the Belum-Temengor jungle complex, where tiger numbers are at a critical stage.

According to the Perak State Parks Corporation’s estimate, there are only 23 tigers left in the Royal Belum and Temengor forest reserves. Just seven to eight years ago, there were sixty.

With this in mind, WWF-Malaysia is taking active measures to combat and frustrate poachers in the area. In mid-2018, it launched a plan to flood the area with patrol teams in an initiative called Project Stampede.

These patrol teams, totalling some 80 rangers, primarily consist of people from the local indigenous communities living in the landscape who are trained to carry out patrols, remove snares and collect data on poaching.

“The first [benefit] is for us to support the indigenous community but they also know the terrain and the forest well, ” explains Lim.

One major impediment to tiger conservation is the presence of snares that trap tigers, their prey and other wildlife. A decline in the number of prey also contributes to lower tiger numbers. From July 2016 to June 2018, a total of 167 active snares were deactivated and a further 518 inactive snares were discovered by WWF-Malaysia’s patrol teams.

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“Thanks to Project Stampede we have seen a reduction of 89% of snares. That is what we can do immediately, ” says Lim.

While efforts like Project Stampede are critical to ‘stop the bleeding’, more still needs to be done.

Lim explains that support from the government, private sector and members of the public is crucial if we are to reverse the decline of tigers. She looks to the success stories of India and Nepal as inspiration.

“India suffered the same fate a long time ago. When I presented our crisis to them [during a visit], an Indian conservation director told me that that was their situation ten years back, ” says Lim. “But with political will, India now has about 50 tiger reserves in the country.”

The Times of India reported that 1,411 tigers were recorded in India in 2006 which increased to 2,967 in 2018, a positive development attributed to India’s national conservation policies.

Locally, Lim describes Ops Bersepadu Khazanah as one of the biggest wins coming out of advocacy work. The police launched the operation last September in collaboration with The Wildlife and National Parks Department (Perhilitan) to put a stop to poaching.

According to the police, each tiger can fetch up to hundreds of thousands of ringgit online and in the black market. Since its launch, wildlife trade monitoring network Traffic observed that Ops Bersepadu Khazanah has shown promising results with ‘mega seizures’, dozens of suspects detained and a money-laundering investigation initiated against a local wildlife crime group.

Among those involved in Ops Bersepadu Khazanah include the Senoi Praaq battalion consisting of Orang Asli officers who are highly skilled at tracking in the jungle.

Inspector General of Police (IGP) Datuk Seri Abdul Hamid Bador is also outspoken in protecting endangered wildlife, proposing tougher penalties, including whipping, to combat poaching and wildlife trafficking in the country. As WWF-Malaysia’s rangers do not have the enforcement powers to apprehend poachers, police action and involvement via Ops Bersepadu Khazanah greatly improves its wildlife protection efforts.

“We work with the police and share information with them if we find sightings of potential poachers, ” says Lim, who expresses appreciation to the police for their conservation measures.

Looking to the future, WWF- Malaysia hopes that tiger conservation will be included in the 12th Malaysia plan and is currently campaigning for the Wildlife Conservation Act 2010 to be further strengthened in order to send a strong message against poaching.

WWF-Malaysia is also requesting for the government to set up a National Tiger Taskforce to be chaired by the Prime Minister and for Ops Bersepadu Khazanah to be made permanent so that there is long term sustainability in the project.

“When everybody works together, there is political will - we can bend the curve. We can reverse and we can arrest the decline of tigers. But we need everybody’s collaboration to do so, ” urges Lim.
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"When the tiger stalks the jungle like the lowering clouds of a thunderstorm, the leopard moves as silently as mist drifting on a dawn wind." -Indian proverb
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India Ashutosh Offline
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One of the last truly wild places in Asia, the northern part of Myanmar bordering India has a very dense forest cover and unique biodiversity. If the Myanmar and Indian govt get their act together, they could make the largest tiger reserve in the world covering over 30,000

Anyway, the Chinese and Burmese scientist conducted surveys in these untouched forests in Hta Man Thi Wildlife sanctuary and found “bengal tigers”, Sun bears, Indochinese leopard, Black Bear, Asiatic Elephant and Gaur.

Personally, I think they are Indochinese tigers with possible hybrids.


PS: Please click the video in the link above to see more animals from this ecological hotspot.
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United Kingdom Sully Offline
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A new study here on indochinese tigers 

Estimating the density of a globally important tiger (Panthera tigris) population: Using simulations to evaluate survey design in Eastern Thailand


Tiger density in Dong Phayayen-Khao Yai (DPKY) was 0.63 (0.32–1.21) tigers/100 km2.

The estimated population for the study area was 20 (14–33) individuals.

We used simulations to validate a non-regular survey design prior to deployment.

Simulations may be beneficial for designing density surveys for low-density species.

Breeding in DPKY reinforces the global importance of this tiger population.

Spatially explicit capture-recapture analysis is widely utilized for estimating densities of tigers (Panthera tigris). However, developing a robust study design capable of meeting assumptions and achieving study objectives may be difficult, particularly for low-density populations. Study design decisions for such fieldwork can be aided by simulations. Our goal was to (1) use simulations to investigate and evaluate study design and (2) generate a reliable estimate of density for a population of tigers in Thailand's Dong Phayayen-Khao Yai forest complex. Scenarios were parameterized with a range of potential density estimates (D̂) and detection function parameters (g0 and σ). We designed a field-based trap configuration identified and compared it with simulated performance of a regular trapping array, over 45-day and 60-day sampling occasions. We compared simulation results (i.e. number of individuals [n], detections [ndet], relative standard error [RSE] and relative bias [RB]) and identified that the non-regular trapping array deployed for 60 sampling days would generate reliable density estimates. Our survey produced a density estimate of 0.63 ± SE0.22; (0.32–1.21) tigers per 100 km2, from a model incorporating variation in sex for g0 and σ, and a population estimate of 20 (14–33). Simulations closely reflected actual results under the null model. Our survey design performed reasonably well, generating a sufficient number of detections and individuals to estimate density of a globally important tiger population. Our results suggest simulations and use of non-regular trap arrays may be beneficial for areas with low species density in which generating sufficient detections is particularly challenging.
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Thai tiger.

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