There is a world somewhere between reality and fiction. Although ignored by many, it is very real and so are those living in it. This forum is about the natural world. Here, wild animals will be heard and respected. The forum offers a glimpse into an unknown world as well as a room with a view on the present and the future. Anyone able to speak on behalf of those living in the emerald forest and the deep blue sea is invited to join.
10-16-2019, 02:52 AM( This post was last modified: 10-24-2019, 11:50 PM by lionjaguar )
(09-01-2014, 02:32 PM)Amnon242 Wrote:
(09-01-2014, 01:50 PM)Apollo Wrote: The norm is these animals will be killed plain and simple. And no jaguar can walkout of a fight against male lion. In general if there is a fight the jaguar will either be killed by the male lion or will just run for its life and try to hide or climb a tree.
I think it´s not that easy. For instance I know about a case when male leopard successfully repelled an attack of a male lion (lion had to be treated by vet). Yes, Lion is much bigger and if he really wanted to kill the leopard, he would be succesfull. But in that case the lion didn´t need to kill the leopard, he could back off - he lost nothing. But the leopard was fighting for his life. There is a difference in motivation. Lion could kill the leopard, but probably with some injuries...and for him it was better to back off and avoid further injuries then to kill the leopard.
Once again: if lion really wanted to kill a jaguar (even with injuries), the jaguar would stand a little chance - there is no dispute.
You and user from Norway would be correct if it was male jaguars in Los Llanos and Pantanal. I don't think smaller jaguars living in North America and Central America would stand a chance. It is still impossible to see male jaguars would win if they fight against male lions, even if was males from Los Llanos and Pantanal.