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(08-30-2016, 12:35 PM)jacksonsmash Wrote: my favorite coalition! where is their territory and how many prides are in their control.
Their territory is in the west of the Sabi sands. Right now they fully control the Othawa pride. They also controlled the Mangheni pride, but these lionesseshave been moving more to the east, to where the Matimbas are.
Quote:Didnt they control 3 or 4 prides at one time.Who ousted them or did they abandon them ?
They did. At first, they controlled the Styx and Fourways prides, that's why their older sons and daughters are of these prides. Then, when the cubs where older they left these prides gradually, moving more to the center of the Sabi sands and cementing their control of the Sparta and Tsalala prides, raising cubs also with these prides.
In 2014, I don't remember if it was may or june, they killed one of the Selati males in the west, after a series of incursions in their territory, and gradually they started spending more and more time in the west. With such a vast territory, they had to spent a lot of time separated to be able to patrol it but this also put them in danger of rivals that could get them alone.
So, in what I consider a smart move, they gradually started to spent less time in their eastern territory (Londolozi and Mala mala), only returning for an ocasional patrol, but definitely focusing their attention in the three prides of the west.
It is often said the Matimbas forced them out of their lands. That is a lie. A full year had passed( between mid 2014 to mid 2015), when the Birmingham males arrived, that forced the Matimbas out of their territory for them to go to Londolozi, where they hadn't been seen until then.
The Majingilane were not forced out of their territory. They left part of it to manage the new they had adquire in a better way.
Quote:The Mapogos were cool but these guys are so successful.So intelligent.It will be a sad day when they are ousted.Which coalitions are their biggest threat right now.I know they are getting up there age wise.
Well right now the only ones that could be a threat are the Birmingham males, but this may take a while because the males are settled and have cubs to look after. But when these cubs are grown, then it could be a time for the Birminghams to make a move, targeting weaker coalitions like the Matimbas (because they are just two), or the Majingilane (because of their age). But one thing that compensates their age is that they still have numbers. They still are four strong.
(08-30-2016, 01:01 PM)jacksonsmash Wrote: I know there is an outdated map in the lion directory but can someone post an updated map with the territories of the coalitions.nothing has to be exact i know male lions love to wander.but my maps need to be updated in my notebook.just an estimation would be helpful.or somebody could tell me.either way is cool. im trying to map out the various territories from the bottom of sabi sands up to balule or selati game reserve,maybe even beyond that
Well, there's always the tempation to edit a map and draw th lines as we think they are, but I'm afraid that can be misleading, as I only know about this through updates, I'm not seeing it myself.
However, I think I can help you a bit and then you can make your own estimations.
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Keeping in mind the names of the lodges, here it goes:
Majingilane males: Ulusaba, Leopard Hills, Dulini, Idube, Savanna, Singita, Exeter, Inyati and bits of Simbabili.
Birmingham males: Elephant plains, Arathusa, Buffelshoek, Djuma, Chitwa Chitwa, Nkorho, Cheetah plains and the north of Mala Mala. (include here the couple of small areas with no name next to the ones I mentioned.)
Matimba males: Part of Londolozi, sometimes visiting Mala Mala.
Matshapiri males: Center and south of Mala mala, sometimes going into Londolozi, but it's the border of their territory.
It might not be perfect, but it will help you to have an idea of where they are. You will also be able to use this to know where the prides live, using the response I gave on which prides each coalition controls.
Awesome @majingilane
Amazing to see such equal distribution throughout the coalitions.
I would guess the majingilane control the most sq. footage but it is so close. Looks like each coalition is allocated roughly 10 sq. miles or so.
@majingilane im running out of ways to say thank you and i have so many questions still. its so much easier to just get my info on this site most of the time. i hope i dont wind up annoying you thanks again brother
History's most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions
thanks again brother
