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History's most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions

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@majingilane great pictures of the boys I am really glad they are all in good condition I know there are not the young guns anymore like they were when the mighty mapogos still ran most of the Sabi sands but it's good to see them all staying close together ready to defend what they have worked hard to keep its going to be exciting keep up with the info it's all exciting to ready thanks!!
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( This post was last modified: 08-17-2015, 08:19 PM by Tshokwane )

Great account on how the Majingilane males chased the Mathsipiri male, as told by Londolozi.

I’ll come instead to the main and unusual event of the pre-noon saga; the return of the Majingilane. The roars of one of the Matshipiri males had permeated the night air the evening before and had obviously been heard by attentive ears in the west. Silently the Majingilane had made their approach, and we had had no indication that they were in the vicinity as they made their way on padded paws.. Were it not for a radio call from one of our staff member’s en route to a bush breakfast who happened to bump into them, we may never have known they were there.

Daniel Buys moved in after the radio call and found them quickly; the scar-nosed, hip-scar and missing-canine members of the mighty coalition. Absent was the dark-maned male, but reports from lodges in the west was that he was mating with a member of the Ottawa pride. The three Majingilane had clearly come back east to put on a bold front for the benefit of the Mathsipiri males(s). Although rare visitors to Londolozi these days, it was clear from their arrival that they still viewed these central areas of the Sabi Sands as their undisputed domain.

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The hyena clan that had chased off the Tsalala pride in the morning moved in as evening fell and forced the lionesses off their wildebeest kill. Two lionesses were no match for the 14 hyenas that they were up against, and the beleaguered pride were forced to retreat. The whoops of the hyena clan as they gorged themselves on their prize carried to where the Mathsipiri male was rousing himself, and before long he had moved in to scatter the clan and claim the kill for his own. Ranger Gregory Pingo and a few other staff members had taken a vehicle out to see the possible interaction and arrived on the scene just as the Matshipiri male settled down to feed. They had bumped into the Majingilane on their way to the kill and had left them walking into the darkness, knowing that the wildebeest kill was where the action would be. We arrived at the kill shortly afterwards, and things were relatively peaceful as the male lion fed contentedly, ignoring the few remaining hyenas sneaking around.


Our main aim was to see the Majingilane, as my guests had viewed them every year since their (the coalition’s) arrival at Londolozi, and we didn’t want to miss this rare opportunity. We had a hard task however, as we now had to find them in the darkness, and although we suspected otherwise, we knew they could be long gone. A few fruitless circuits about the area turned up nothing, and we were about to return to camp when Greg’s voice came over the radio that they had found the three males, and they were barely 100m from where the Matshipiri male was feeding and still blissfully unaware of the approaching threat.

Needless to say, we raced back to the scene, heading straight to the Matshipiri male, who the Majingilane were by now steadily approaching.

Just as we do when lions or leopards are hunting at night, both vehicles went lights down, as we don’t like to impact natural behaviour in any way. A faint moon illuminated where the Mathsipiri male continued to feed. Apart from the noise of him eating, all was eerily quiet.


Suddenly his head shot up, ears pointedly fixed to the west, the direction the Majingilane were lying in. Possessing far superior hearing and vision to any human, he had heard and subsequently spotted the danger in time, and he immediately got up and slunk quickly and silently off into the darkness. Within less than a minute the three Majingilane had arrived at the kill, and predicting another anticlimax, we all expected them to settle down to feed. Not so. The Scar-nosed male arrived first, and the instant he cut the scent of the Matshipiri male, he turned, and broke into a run. Followed by the male with the missing canine, both males were soon at a full canter, roaring their anger at the intrusion of the foreign male. It was all we could do to keep up as they continued at a run, moving on and on through the bush, across drainage lines, through thickets, foregoing the ease of movement that game paths or dirt roads would offer and staying like bloodhounds on the scent trail of the Matshipiri male, roaring continuously.
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The chase had gone on for over two kilometres when the two Majingilane slowed to a walk (the hip-scar male had not joined the chase). Switching off our engines to listen, we could hear not one, but two sets of answering roars reverberating out of the thickets only a few hundred metres away; the Matshipiri male had clearly reunited with his brother! Suddenly finding themselves far out of their usual stomping grounds (this was the furthest east they had travelled in over a year), and faced with an enemy of unknown strength, the two Majingilane decided that discretion was the better part of valour, and turned quickly to trot back the way they had come, the defiant roars of the Matshipiri males sounding behind them.

They maintained the pace all the way back to where the hip-scar male was feeding on the wildebeest kill. Although the initial instinct from all on our vehicle was to admonish him for not joining in the chase, we realised that had he not stayed with the kill, the hyenas would have moved in and devoured it within minutes, and he had therefore saved a meal for him and his coalition-mates.


My take on the day’s events is simple: The Majingilane responded instinctively to the roars of an intruding male (Matshipiri), which they may not have done had they heard both Matshipiri males together. Sensing his vulnerability, they moved in silently over the course of a night and the next evening, but were just too slow to catch him unawares. Luckily for the Matshipiri male, he had a clear line of sight to where the Majingilane were advancing from, enabling him to sneak away in time, thereby escaping at the very least a severe mauling but quite possibly death. Upon scenting him, two of the Majingilane immediately gave chase, with the third one remaining behind to guard their newly acquired wildebeest carcass and retain control of the meal. After being chased for a substantial distance, the Matshipiri male reunited with his brother, effectively doubling the force facing the Majingilane. Upon their reunion, the Matshipiri males immediately began roaring, which essentially amounted to a direct challenge to the Majingilane. Now finding themselves in a two-on-two situation, the chasing Majingilane realised they were far from home, without help and potentially outmatched. They immediately retreated, stopping to feed once they reached the wildebeest carcass once more.

Exactly what happened later that night I cannot say, as we headed home after this. All we know is that the Majingilane had disappeared back over our western boundary by the following morning, and the Matshipiri males were nowhere to be found. Tracks of male lions were everywhere. I strongly suspect that the reunited Matshipiri males may have advanced towards where the Majingilane were feeding, and the experience of the Majingilane led them to shun an aggressive encounter and move back to the safety of their own secure territory.


An amazing account of how the action went. And I notice how the writer recognizes how the game is really played when it comes to lion warfare.

The Majingilane are ageing steadily, yet on this evening displayed the tactical superiority which has kept them in firm control for so many years. Advancing when they have the upper hand and retreating when the tables turn. It is not just brute strength and numbers that determine the victors when it comes to Lion Warfare, but clearly an innate understanding of which strategies to employ and when.

I often find people in facebook and in youtube, most of them Mapogo "fans", that like to label the Majingilane as cowards who wont face rivals when numbers are even, only when they surpass their enemies. They like to proclaim the "courage" of both Kinky tail and Mr.T who faced 4 lions on their own and how this two "wouldn't back down from any fight".
But these people are missing the big picture here. They rationalize lion behaviour to reflect what they like personally, but this has little to do with how wild animals behave.
Lions are all about brute strenght, but when it comes to war this is just not enough. A stupid charge against more opponents, or in a situation when you don't know really who and how many you're fighting will lead the mentioned lion killed, as it turned out to happen with Kinky tail Mapogo. 
Now compare that with the flawless reign of five years of the Majingilane males, giving honor to what their name means, that is walking together, patrolling their domain and keeping other males off their land.
This is how a successful coalition stays in power, even when they're beginning to age. They are the hallmark of  successful male lions.

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The Majingilane males. Forever on patrol...



 
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Good post very interesting the majigilanes are smart!! I wonder if three tooth Is still the least dominant male still? No longer gold mane huh?
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( This post was last modified: 08-17-2015, 10:17 PM by Panthera Leo )

Go majingilane! Go get em tiger! I mean L ion! Im a mapogo fan but majins are very good!
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@lioncrazy I think the least dominant is Scar Nose. And I don't think Golden Mane is dominant over Hip Scar but one never knows. To show a little bit this, look at this video of Dark mane and Golden mane arguing over a female of the Othawa pride:



It's clear that, at least when it comes to mating, Dark mane is the dominant one.
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Look at this totally amazing video of the lads "sharing" an Impala kill and also a bit of interesting info shared by Rob, the ranger recording this, concerning to the size of the brothers. 



Enjoy it, it is simply amazing.
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@majingilane I like this video good too see three tooth snag a good portion of the meal but dark mane showed his power I like that also!! I truly belive dark mane is key to the coalitions continued power he is just awesome!!  I missed the part where rob was talking about the size of the males can you explain? thanks
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@lioncrazy , Around the minute 7:45 he is asked if the black maned lion is the "bigger, stronger one". Rob hesitates a bit, but says he is the bigger of the two disputing the impala(Dark mane and Hip Scar) but that Dark mane "is not the biggest of the group."
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@majingilane ok I heard that I was thinking about that statement he mad by the looks of it three tooth looks biggest what do you think?
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Well, in one comment of the video, the ranger was asked who was bigger, and he said that Scar Nose seems the bigger one.
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Dark mane

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A much younger Dark mane

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Scar Nose

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I think this one is from last year

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Hip Scar

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Hip Scar teaching us men how to deal with pushy(and deceptive) ladies Grin




Golden Mane

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The boys enjoying a meal

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@majingilane man I love these males my absolute favorite of the coalitions I mean the mapogos brought me here but these brothers play by a certain set of rules that have kept them all together and alive some people may say they only fight when they are out numbering the other lions but hey they fight to WIN!! Hope they can stay on for awhile longer also how did you think hip scar looked in the video?? His condition I mean
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( This post was last modified: 09-12-2015, 09:35 PM by Tshokwane )

For that little cut in his nose? Nah, that's nothing, it's just a scratch. He'll be just fine, and that will be just another scar to his ever growing count of scars.
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@lioncrazy already put the link to the londolozi blog, so I wanted to highlight some of the things that werethe most interesting to me from the post about the encounter between the Majingilane males and the two Matimbas.

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"The next morning (yesterday), reports were that two of the Majingilane and the two Matimba males were found lying up around 500 m from each other. Despite their enormous size, it was reported that the two Matimbas were reluctant to answer the challenging calls of the Majingilane pair. Perhaps they heard the rest of the Majingilane coalition further west and realised the great danger they would face in taking on four male lions.

Would the Matimbas advance, or would the Majingilane? If the Matimbas did advance, would the Majingilane retreat?

As the African dusk descended, the Matimbas ran.

There was no roaring from either side, but the rangers present think that the Matimbas may have heard some contact calling from the Majingilane, thought they were coming, and decided discretion was the better part of valour. The fact that they were looking behind them as they ran indicates that they certainly knew something was coming. Tracks from this morning conclusively showed that the Majingilane tailed the Matimba males all the way through our property, forcing them back east of our boundary and then retreating themselves back west."
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And this is a map that shows the course of action of that encounter. Blue line, Majingilane males, Red line, Matimba males:

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There was a nice talk about this in facebook.
Of course, there are some that give the old same idiotic talk, that the Majingilane are "only" brave when they have superiority in numbers, and that is only showed how "cowards" they really are when they are even in numbers.
But this point of view, fueled by their fanatism in the Mapogos agression, ignores an important fact of the lions way of fighting.
 Numbers. Gang fight. People can whine all they want about it, that it's not fair and all that, but it is how it is. Just lion nature.
Size means a lot for the individuals, but at the end of the day, it's superior numbers what really matters, and the ability to apply that advantage to their favor, as well as the knowledge of the terrain, something the Majingilane have since this used to be their territory.
I don't think they want to stake claim of this land again. They have pretty much abandoned it, except for a small bit of the western part(where the blue line returns), but I do think they meant to make a clear statement. They really know the Matimba males, they know how dangerous they could possibly be to their prides and cubs and they don't want the Matimbas anywhere near their land.

Will this happen again? Will the Matimba males return and confront the Majingilane? Will the old rulers continue to make a show of their strenght or will they be satisfied with this statement?
I don't know. We will have to wait and see what happens, but with other young males like the two Matshipiri males and the two Styx males roaming the area, the action is sure to continue.
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@majingilane very well said it's ridiculous when people say they are cowardly when the numbers don't favor the majigilanes it's the smart way to stay alive and that's all it is to them how to stay alive!! Like I said before these brothers play by a certain set of rules and it is showing cause they still run Sabi sands. All these males worry about is FAMILY,FOOD,LAND
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