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Girth Comparaison of Animals

India brotherbear Offline
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( This post was last modified: 04-22-2018, 04:03 AM by brotherbear )

At equal head-and-body length, the grizzly is much thicker and heavier - greater girth. 
If we were comparing a reticulated python to a green anaconda in a comparison of girth, we would compare them at equal length; thus find which is thicker and heavier - the anaconda. No difference in comparing tiger with grizzly. Comparing at weight-parity in an effort to compare girth makes absolutely not one shred of sense. Ridiculous to even consider. 
 
*If you don't think it fair; blame God. If you don't believe in God, blame evolution or blame genetics. But the grizzly has the tiger beat in girth.
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( This post was last modified: 04-23-2018, 10:32 PM by Pckts )

(04-22-2018, 04:00 AM)brotherbear Wrote: If we were comparing a reticulated python to a green anaconda in a comparison of girth, we would compare them at equal length; thus find which is thicker and heavier - the anaconda. No difference in comparing tiger with grizzly.
Numerous differences between this comparison and the Bear/Big Cat comparison.

1. Snakes are of the same species not Like a Bear v. Cat.
2. Snakes don't have a neck, chest or limbs so what else could you compare.
3. A Reticulated Python would be longer while a Anaconda would be shorter and heavier, of course a heavier, shorter snake will have more girth than a longer snake that weighs less, where else would the weight distribute?

If you were to compare a Gabon Viper to a Anaconda lets say, you could then do it by extrapolating the weight of the viper or length, but either way is a different comparison.  

We are comparing a Full Grown Bear @ 200kg to a Full Grown Cat @ 200kg, hence why the comparison is lb for lb.

"But the grizzly has the tiger beat in girth."


It certainly does, I have never said it doesn't but when equal weights or lengths at times, the Tiger has some individuals that out match the Grizzly while other individuals even at equal weights will surpass any Tiger specimens you can find. 
So in closing, like I have said numerous times, the outliers for the Grizzly will far exceed the outliers for Tigers but depending on the sub species, there are Tigers that will have more girth in any department than a Grizzly of comparative weight but more often the Grizzly is the winner in this department. 
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India brotherbear Offline
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( This post was last modified: 04-23-2018, 10:18 PM by brotherbear )

Grizzly and Tiger: each Carnivora - each standing on four legs. Are they built differently? Yes; the grizzly has greater girth. And; comparing girth at weight-parity is a meaningless endeavor.
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United States Pckts Offline
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( This post was last modified: 04-23-2018, 10:29 PM by Pckts )

(04-23-2018, 10:14 PM)brotherbear Wrote: Grizzly and Tiger: each Carnivora - each standing on four legs. Are they built differently? Yes; the grizzly has greater girth. And; comparing girth at weight-parity is a meaningless endeavor.
Comparing at a length parity is also a meaningless endeavor, you understand this don't you?
It's a personal preference used to put two different species on an even playing field.
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United States Polar Offline
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Looks like we reached a conclusion...grizzly has greater chest/neck girth than big cats at ANY parity.
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United States Pckts Offline
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(04-23-2018, 10:29 PM)Polar Wrote: Looks like we reached a conclusion...grizzly has greater chest/neck girth than big cats at ANY parity.

Yup, in the simplest terms. But still the big cats are larger than some grizzlies in any parity as well.
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United States paul cooper Offline
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(04-23-2018, 10:14 PM)brotherbear Wrote: Grizzly and Tiger: each Carnivora - each standing on four legs. Are they built differently? Yes; the grizzly has greater girth. And; comparing girth at weight-parity is a meaningless endeavor.

Cry me a river.
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United States Polar Offline
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@paul cooper , @brotherbear is right on average.
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United States Pckts Offline
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(04-23-2018, 10:54 PM)Polar Wrote: @paul cooper , @brotherbear is right on average.

average what?
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United States Polar Offline
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@Pckts, about the consensus on this thread.
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United States Pckts Offline
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( This post was last modified: 04-23-2018, 11:23 PM by Pckts )

(04-23-2018, 11:17 PM)Polar Wrote: @Pckts, about the consensus on this thread.

What consensus?
Our discussion was lb for lb to start, then it spiraled to which measurement is better for determining a "fair comparison."

But the only thing I was curious about is how they compared at a lb for lb.
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United States Polar Offline
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( This post was last modified: 04-23-2018, 11:30 PM by Polar )

@Pckts, we reached the consensus that the bears have a greater cheat/neck girth on average than the tiger in both weight and length parity (most likely at any parity as well), but that some of the specimens you presented could have the lower-end of the bears presented beat in chest/neck girth. @brotherbear and I (after PT Sondaica started this with muscle mass %) stated that bears have greater chest/neck girths than the tiger on average, and @Spalea made more sense of our opinion, so the main argument is on his/my/brotherbear's side. "Lb vs lb" and "inch vs inch" was more of a secondary issue, but I agree with you for weight parity.
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India brotherbear Offline
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But the only thing I was curious about is how they compared at a lb for lb.... which would be a tiger measuring perhaps seven feet in head-and-body length compared to a bear measuring six feet or less; a smaller animal. This is your idea of a fair comparison in your endeavor to make the tiger either equal to or greater than the bear in girth. Why? 
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Indonesia P.T.Sondaica Offline
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Ok in this thread if bear bigger size(weight) they have more girth than tiger but in same size adult animal(weight) tiger have more bigger girth neck or chest than bear..
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United States Polar Offline
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The bear has more chest and neck girth than the tiger at same weight.
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