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(06-01-2019, 12:08 AM)Spalea Wrote: @epaiva :

About #119: very interesting account ! But may I ask you at what time (approximately) of the day did you witness these two long pursuits by the lionesses ? At broad daylight it would seem me almost incredible...

Your two first photos show two beautiful lion's bodies, really 0% body fat, strong shoulders...

He did not say the hours he witnessed the two hunts but in other part of the book he says that Kalahari Lions hunt late afternoon and during the Night.
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Lion's menu in the southern part of the Kalahari desert, their most important prey is the dangerous Oryx Gensbok.
Book The Hunters of the  Dunes The Story of Kalahari Lions (Fritz Ellof)
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(06-06-2019, 04:47 AM)epaiva Wrote:
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Lion's menu in the southern part of the Kalahari desert, their most important prey is the dangerous Oryx Gensbok.
Book The Hunters of the  Dunes The Story of Kalahari Lions (Fritz Ellof)

Here in the Arabian Peninsula, bearing in mind that Asiatic lions used to be here (https://archive.org/stream/naturalistsli...5/mode/2up, https://archive.org/stream/wildbeastsstu...6/mode/2up, https://archive.org/stream/journalofbomb...2/mode/2up, https://books.google.com/books?id=TX7BmP...&q&f=false, https://books.google.com/books?id=GWslAA...=firefox-a), there is the Arabian oryx (Oryx leucoryx), which has generally made a great recovery from being on the brink of extinction, especially in the UAE (where it is the national animal: https://www.khaleejtimes.com/nation/duba...e-mistaken): http://www.arabnews.com/node/1433756/middle-east 



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(06-01-2019, 12:08 AM)Spalea Wrote: Your two first photos show two beautiful lion's bodies, really 0% body fat, strong shoulders...

Spalea, you are good poster. But beside writing a comments and asesments to other members posts try more often to post scientific info, images and videos. We need a posts which bring information and aesthetic value. Emphasizing only on comments is not something appreciable . This is a warning. Thanks.
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(06-07-2019, 08:26 PM)Wolverine Wrote:
(06-01-2019, 12:08 AM)Spalea Wrote: Your two first photos show two beautiful lion's bodies, really 0% body fat, strong shoulders...

Spalea, you are good poster. But beside writing a comments and asesments to other members posts try more often to post scientific info, images and videos. We need a posts which bring information and aesthetic value. Your emphasizing on comments will be no further tolerated. This is a warning. Thanks.

Observations and opinions have always been apart of this forum and others that came before it, if one wants to give their opinions than they should be free to do so.
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I was only amazed by these two male lions' abundant mane. Amazed because we speak about desert lions. It's a paradox, I think. In Tsavo park, very dry biotop, lions are maneless. In desert, a dryer biotop, lions are able to wear beautiful manes...
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(06-08-2019, 12:14 AM)Spalea Wrote: I was only amazed by these two male lions' abundant mane. Amazed because we speak about desert lions. It's a paradox, I think. In Tsavo park, very dry biotop, lions are maneless. In desert, a dryer biotop, lions are able to wear beautiful manes...

Not just that, these Southwest African desert lions can be quite fat and muscular, which is surprising, considering that in hot, dry xeric or desert-like conditions, prey would be rather scarce for predators, due to vegetation and water being less than in regular savannahs, isn't it?

The Namib Desert: 




The Kalahari xeric savannah: http://www.alisonbuttigieg.com/border_galleries/lions/







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A lion that travelled 1,300 km (800 miles) between Angola and Nambia, before getting killed: https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/rar...data/32633
   

Kebbel the lion in Sesfontein Conservancy, northern Namibia: https://africageographic.com/blog/no-hun...-minister/
   

Namibian lions at Etosha National Park: http://liquidexplorer.com/collections/li...life-wide/, http://www.africaphotography.co.za/etosha-august-2014/, https://www.wildlifeadventures.com/namib...mibia.htmlhttp://maasaiprde.proboards.com/thread/41/lion-breeds (from https://www.nathab.com/africa/the-great-...fe-safari/)




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@BorneanTiger :

About #127: Great pictures ! It remains a lot of thing to discover about lions, I believe... What does it lead them into desert from a remote district (1300 km...)? In desert their territories are much bigger than in Savannah, thus of course many more kilometers to cover in order to catch a prey... Despite of that they can be fat and muscular ? Perhaps are they more efficient hunters when they spot a prey ?

But a correction, Etosha park is a big park with a big fauna. Even if the temperatures are higher, lions are able to kill big preys there and their conditions of life stay don't stay very different compared to the Serengeti ones for example. But into hot desert it's amazing !

Along the Namibian coast, we know they feed on seals (and sometimes whales' corpses)... The seal's flesh is rather rich in protein isn't it... If these lions regularly kill some seals, perhaps we would be able to explain why they can be fat...
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Angry Kalahari Lions
Book Hunters of the Dunes The Story of Kalahari Lions (Fritz Elloff)

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(06-20-2019, 01:23 AM)epaiva Wrote: Book Hunters of the Dunes The Story of Kalahari Lions (Fritz Elloff)

Quick question my friend, there are body measurements or weights in this book?
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(06-09-2019, 09:49 PM)BorneanTiger Wrote:
(06-08-2019, 12:14 AM)Spalea Wrote: I was only amazed by these two male lions' abundant mane. Amazed because we speak about desert lions. It's a paradox, I think. In Tsavo park, very dry biotop, lions are maneless. In desert, a dryer biotop, lions are able to wear beautiful manes...

Not just that, these Southwest African desert lions can be quite fat and muscular, which is surprising, considering that in hot, dry xeric or desert-like conditions, prey would be rather scarce for predators, due to vegetation and water being less than in regular savannahs, isn't it?

The Namib Desert: 




The Kalahari xeric savannah: http://www.alisonbuttigieg.com/border_galleries/lions/







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A lion that travelled 1,300 km (800 miles) between Angola and Nambia, before getting killed: https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/rar...data/32633

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Kebbel the lion in Sesfontein Conservancy, northern Namibia: https://africageographic.com/blog/no-hun...-minister/

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Namibian lions at Etosha National Park: http://liquidexplorer.com/collections/li...life-wide/, http://www.africaphotography.co.za/etosha-august-2014/, https://www.wildlifeadventures.com/namib...mibia.htmlhttp://maasaiprde.proboards.com/thread/41/lion-breeds (from https://www.nathab.com/africa/the-great-...fe-safari/)




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The lion which travelled 1,300 km (807 miles) has found its match in the form of a Central Indian tigerhttps://wildfact.com/forum/topic-bigcats...9#pid95749
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(10-17-2019, 09:38 PM)GuateGojira Wrote:
(06-20-2019, 01:23 AM)epaiva Wrote: Book Hunters of the Dunes The Story of Kalahari Lions (Fritz Elloff)

Quick question my friend, there are body measurements or weights in this book?
Sadly it doesn't have measurements and weights, I ordered this book hoping it had that information.
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Kalahari Lions 
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Massive lions from Kgalagadi ('Kalahari') Transfrontier Park (shared by northwest South Africa, southwest Botswana and southern Namibia), Etosha National Park (northern Namibia), Sesfontein Conservancy (northern Namibia) and Angola here: https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-on-the-...#pid102182
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