Crocodile and Big cats Interaction

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(10-15-2018, 11:00 PM)Pckts Wrote:

(10-15-2018, 02:01 PM)parvez Wrote:

(10-13-2018, 03:17 PM)Spalea Wrote:

(10-13-2018, 02:45 PM)parvez Wrote: @Spalea Those two incidents are involving Sunderban tigers. Sunderban tigers are the smallest of Bengal tigers. They may be weighing only around 140-180kgs and also i suppose are inferiorly built than mainland tigers. So, the instincts of being gigantic if provoked is absent in them. I doubt their biteforce and overall power are same in Sunderban tigers. They aren't stocky too. All these factors contribute. Even then both articles state they are very rare incidents. That itself speaks of tigers dominance.

When we speak about crocs killed by tigers, we don't never say "it's only Mugger croc, not saltwater croc"... If we speak about tigers killed by crocs we don't say "it's only the Sundarban tigers, the smallest of Bengal tigers". The objectivity must work in both sides. When a tiger kills a croc, you say "as usual", but in the opposite case not only you say it was a small subspecy of tiger, but also that these small Sundarban tigers are not as powerfully built. Where is the proof that the Sundarban tigers aren't as pound for pound (I know you're all fond of this expression) strong as the other Bengal tigers ? Why do you want absolutely to minimize the facts retailing some tigers killed by other animals ? Tigers are beautiful and marvelous animals but I believe we aren't allowed to say they are only animals and that, sometimes they can be vanquished.

Such fights happen very seldomly. But we absolutely need certainties in order to say "the former is stronger than the latter, always !", we have a pathological need to establish some hierarchies, strength hierarchies of course.

All this to say that I'm not convinced at all that an adult male tiger would have the upper hand against a fully adult Saltwater croc into the water.

Mainland tigers like sonam(in the video i posted in this thread) easily steals the prey from mugger crocodiles in DEEP water. Crocodiles are sluggish creatures. Their metabolism rate is very low compared to mammals. I think that is where they are capitalized at by the big cats. Big cats, particularly tigers are amazingly agile, strong, fast to capitalise on sluggishness even in water. Sonam is a tigress probably weighing around 150kgs. She fends of probably 2 crocodiles in deep water. Genghis of ranthambore ddd this almost regularly. The crocodiles have natural instinct of fear for tigers in atleast indian subcontinent. Atlast i mean to say some tigers have the potential to fight and steal prey from salties even in deep water owing to all the factors i spoke of now.

There is a huge difference between Mugger Crocs and Salt Water Crocs, we're not talking about the 100kg or so difference between Sunderban and Mainland Tigers, we're talking about 1000kg difference between a large Saltie and a large Mugger.
A Lion or Tiger will not pose a real threat to a Big Croc in the water, outside of a prey item that can defend itself and cause damage. But that certainly will not stop Crocs from attempting predation on them, and doing so successfully and unsuccessfully as well. 

Now speaking from my first hand experience, when I was in Dubai, I went to their mall, they have a wild caught Saltie (australian) there, he's massive. There is no cat alive that I have seen that holds a candle to that beast. 

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This picture does no justice to the guy, but you can watch a video on him here.

WEIGHING IN AT A WHOPPING 750 KGS AND MEASURING OVER 5M IN LENGTH, THIS MASSIVE WONDER OF THE ANIMAL KINGDOM HAS FINALLY ARRIVED AT DUBAI AQUARIUM & UNDERWATER ZOO.

@Pckts
I totally agree with you my Friend a big croc 5 meters long or larger is just too much for any cat including Tigers and Lions, big Crocs that size weight from 700 to 1000 kilograms Reply