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Crocodile and Big cats Interaction - sanjay - 09-17-2018
I think this is much needed separate thread where we can share information, images and video related to crocodile, alligators and caiman interacting with big cats or any other predator species.
I request to post all your finding in this thread which is related to These reptiles and other carnivora, specially big cats.
RE: Crocodile and Big cats Interaction - sanjay - 09-17-2018
So today, I saw this wonderful video originally shared by Maasai Sighting YouTube channel. In this video a young male lion crossing the river is completely unaware of the presence of crocodile and it was only his lucky day, he escaped any how.
RE: Crocodile and Big cats Interaction - sanjay - 09-17-2018
In this one, Crocodile is on land.. I would say the crocodile is lucky in this case
RE: Crocodile and Big cats Interaction - parvez - 09-17-2018
The famous machli killing huge crocodile,
See from 00:35 Sec
RE: Crocodile and Big cats Interaction - Rage2277 - 09-17-2018
RE: Crocodile and Big cats Interaction - Rage2277 - 09-17-2018
RE: Crocodile and Big cats Interaction - sanjay - 09-17-2018
@Rage2277
Please add some description as well
RE: Crocodile and Big cats Interaction - Vegeta San - 09-18-2018
Here's an account of crocodile getting killed by a leopard...
"Nile crocodile ends up on a leopard's menu in Zambia
BY ETHAN SHAW NOVEMBER 08 2017
Not too long ago, we were marvelling over some stellar snapshots of a jaguar rustlin' and wrasslin' up a caiman entrée in the Brazilian Pantanal; now we have equally impressive footage of an African leopard dispatching a Nile crocodile.
Here's the video of it: https://youtu.be/iERNW9eePAg
Photographer and safari guide Edward Selfecaptured the event, which took place on a recent evening in Zambia's South Luangwa National Park.
"We found this large leopard resting on a fallen tree at dusk," writes Selfe on his website. "He descended and called, starting to mark his territory. We followed for a while and then left him when he went to drink at the river. Returning soon after, we found him ... dragging a carcass through the long grass."
A few moments later, the photographer realised that the spotted cat's prize was a small crocodile.
It's not exactly a garden-variety leopard kill to witness, but it's also not exactly shocking. Leopards are famously unfussy about food, with a diet that's among the widest-ranging of any large carnivore. We're talking fish and frogs all the way up to hoofed fare the size of eland and young buffalo. An incautious (maybe dozing) little crocodile along the river's edge would be a prime target for the big cat family's über-opportunist.
Leopards in Africa and Asia probably don't eat crocodilians as frequently as some populations of jaguars, for which caimans may constitute major portions of their regular meal ticket. But Selfe's sighting isn't the first time the jaguar's Old World lookalike cousin has been seen chowing down on scaly sustenance. Hal Brindley, for example, photographed a Kruger National Park leopard snatching a somewhat larger Nile croc right from the water and killing it on land."
Source: https://www.earthtouchnews.com/natural-world/predator-vs-prey/nile-crocodile-ends-up-on-a-leopards-menu-in-zambia/
A female Florida panther with cubs successfully drives off a alligator.
https://youtu.be/7P7A0qioCTc
One eyed leopard takes part in kill with 10 huge & massive crocodiles.
https://youtu.be/70MDSa9RWHE
RE: Crocodile and Big cats Interaction - Vegeta San - 09-19-2018
Here's another account of leopard killing crocodile in a interaction.
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These are the incredible pictures which show the first ever leopard attack on a crocodile.
Hal Brindley snapped the amazing moment a leopard snatched a crocodile at a South African game reserve on the only occasion this behaviour has ever been documented worldwide.
*This image is copyright of its original author
I was photographing hippos at a waterhole in Kruger National Park South Africa when out of nowhere, a speeding shape comes out of the bush and hits the water. I swing my camera and begin shooting before I even know what it is. I realize, looking through the lens, that it is a leopard that has snatched a crocodile from the water. They tumble and fight for less than a minute before the leopard begins dragging the crocodile up the bank and back into the bush. It disappears into the grass. Two minutes later it appears again farther into the bush, the bloody crocodile now hangs lifeless and limp from its jaws. I wanted so badly to follow them, because it was quite likely that the leopard would attempt to drag the crocodile up a tree! What amazing photos that would have made. Unfortunately you're not allowed to leave the car in south african national parks. (for good reason, a dumb tourist gets killed every year, usually by leopards!)
The American wildlife photographer was taking pictures of hippos from his car at a waterhole in Kruger National Park when a speeding shape came out of the bushes and headed for the water.
After an initial struggle, onlookers stared in disbelief as the leopard emerged dragging a thrashing crocodile up the bank.
With its' snout pointing upwards, the crocodile snapped and attempted to fight back as the predators flipped and tumbled in a dramatic battle.
But the leopard, who had it caught by the throat, remained in control as the crocodile's legs clawed frantically at the cat's belly, its jaws snapping at air.
*This image is copyright of its original author
Despite being outweighed, the leopard was able to sit on top of the crocodile and suffocate it.
The big cat eventually dragged its' prey into the grass and out of sight as park visitors are forbidden from leaving their cars.
There have been recorded cases of crocodiles killing leopards but never the other way around as the meat a crocodile provides is not sufficient enough to justify the risk.
Brindley said: 'I asked many rangers in South Africa if they had ever heard of anything like this and they all said no.
'It just doesn't make sense. The meat you get out of a crocodile is just not worth the risk it takes a predator to acquire.
'The whole scene happened in the course of about 5 minutes. Then the leopard was gone.
He added: 'I drove away, elated in disbelief. It may have been the most amazing thing I've ever seen.'
The scene was reminiscent of the famous Battle at Kruger amateur wildlife video that depicted a confrontation between a herd of Cape Buffalo, a small pride of lions, and a pair of crocodiles.
The video was shot in September, 2004 at a watering hole in Kruger National Park, South Africa, by videographer David Budzinski and photographer Jason Schlosberg.
After being posted on YouTube in 2007, Battle at Kruger became a viral video sensation and was widely praised for its dramatic depiction of wildlife on the African savannah.
It became one of YouTube's most popular videos, with more than 31 million views.
Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1036216/Pictured-The-incredible-moment-leopard-attacks-crocodile.html
RE: Crocodile and Big cats Interaction - parvez - 09-23-2018
Experts i contacted told me that they always see crocodiles killed by tigers. That is like a common happening. That itself speaks....
RE: Crocodile and Big cats Interaction - parvez - 10-03-2018
RE: Crocodile and Big cats Interaction - Spalea - 10-04-2018
An other interaction between tigers and crocs:
RE: Crocodile and Big cats Interaction - Rage2277 - 10-13-2018
So sad, but I guess that this is nature. It eventually dragged the leopard towards the river and we lost sight of it."
Seen a recently at Lower Sabie
Tinged by Kevin Isakow Latest Sightings - Kruger
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RE: Crocodile and Big cats Interaction - Spalea - 10-13-2018
(09-23-2018, 11:44 AM)parvez Wrote: Experts i contacted told me that they always see crocodiles killed by tigers. That is like a common happening. That itself speaks....
Sometimes it happens:
http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/in-sunderbans-crocodile-devours-tiger/829699/
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/environment/flora-fauna/Croc-kills-tiger-after-night-long-duel/articleshow/9548432.cms
I think a fully grown adult saltwater croc into the water would be a serious test for any adult male tiger... Perhaps a too serious test, the tiger being not in its element. When we speak about tiger vs croc fights, it always concerns the Mugger crocodile, never the saltwater croc, bigger and more aggressive (the most aggressive croc with the Nile croc):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mugger_crocodile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltwater_crocodile
I don't want to be a killjoy, but no one animal is invulnerable.
RE: Crocodile and Big cats Interaction - parvez - 10-13-2018
@Spalea Those two incidents are involving Sunderban tigers. Sunderban tigers are the smallest of Bengal tigers. They may be weighing only around 140-180kgs and also i suppose are inferiorly built than mainland tigers. So, the instincts of being gigantic if provoked is absent in them. I doubt their biteforce and overall power are same in Sunderban tigers. They aren't stocky too. All these factors contribute. Even then both articles state they are very rare incidents. That itself speaks of tigers dominance.