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Coalitions of Kruger National Park

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(10-16-2024, 11:54 PM)Brahim Wrote: The 2 Eldest Kambula males seen today on the H1-1. Their partner Darkmane Pretoriuskop has also been seen lately.

Them being around Pertoriuskop and Shitlave Dam means that Phabenis are gone?

Any word what happened to Phabenis?
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(10-17-2024, 12:01 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Isn't that the same location the Gijimas are?

Edit: never mind, Gijimas are on the H11.

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that H11 and H1-1 are the same road. But, it is a long road from the map I saw, meaning the Gijimas may be miles away.
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I'd be willing to bet the Kambulas ousted the Phabeni.
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(10-17-2024, 01:29 AM)BA0701 Wrote: I could be wrong, but my understanding is that H11 and H1-1 are the same road. But, it is a long road from the map I saw, meaning the Gijimas may be miles away.

No, different roads.

H11 is short road from Kruger Gate to Skukuza, just south of Sabi Sands.

H1-1 is further south, long road from Pretoriuskop to H3 road, connecting with H3 ~ half way from Skukuza to Jock.
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( This post was last modified: 10-17-2024, 07:28 PM by Tr1x24 )

(10-17-2024, 02:23 AM)Mapokser Wrote: I'd be willing to bet the Kambulas ousted the Phabeni.

Well Phabenis where split, Blondie and 3rd male where around Nyamundwa Dam, while 2 twins where around Shitlave - Pretoriuskop, further south.

It might be that Kambulas ousted Blondie and 3rd male last year around Nyamundwa, as they become territorial there.

But recently @Brahim said that only 1 Phabeni is still seen (i guess 1 of twins) and now Kambulas are seen further south around twins territory.

So idk what happened exactly with Phabenis, without further info, we can just guess.

Unfortunatley this area is also known for poaching, and these guys where impressive males (not saying that was the case).

Can remember when was the last sighting of them together.
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Old Leeupan & Majingilane males.

Majingilane picture taken in Londolozi Game Reserve 2017 .

Old leeupan/Mantimahle picture taken in Mlondozi Dam at Kruger National Park in November 2007 .

Old leeupan photo by :- Arno Meintjes .

Majingilane photo by :- Londolozi .

Made by brother Harren from Facebook .
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(10-17-2024, 07:18 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(10-17-2024, 01:29 AM)BA0701 Wrote: I could be wrong, but my understanding is that H11 and H1-1 are the same road. But, it is a long road from the map I saw, meaning the Gijimas may be miles away.

No, different roads.

H11 is short road from Kruger Gate to Skukuza, just south of Sabi Sands.

H1-1 is further south, long road from Pretoriuskop to H3 road, connecting with H3 ~ half way from Skukuza to Jock.

Ah, thank you for that correction, to aid my understanding!
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Yeah I thought it was the same road until a friend pointed it out on a better map lol
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(10-20-2024, 05:10 AM)Mwk85 Wrote:


Interesting. I wonder where in Manyeleti.. I am not familiar with these males but if they're looking for new females and a pride to build, the Mbiri pride is basically up for grabs.
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(10-20-2024, 11:57 AM)MrLoesoe Wrote:
(10-20-2024, 05:10 AM)Mwk85 Wrote:


Interesting. I wonder where in Manyeleti.. I am not familiar with these males but if they're looking for new females and a pride to build, the Mbiri pride is basically up for grabs.
Looks like male lion behind is the Torchwood male lion son of Birmingham male lions. Male lions are son of the Birmingham male lion and Avoca male lion. Well hopefully not there is cubs sub adult in the Mibiri pride? There is also a young male lion son of Jr.Nukhuma hopefully he is ok.
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(10-20-2024, 11:57 AM)MrLoesoe Wrote:
(10-20-2024, 05:10 AM)Mwk85 Wrote:


Interesting. I wonder where in Manyeleti.. I am not familiar with these males but if they're looking for new females and a pride to build, the Mbiri pride is basically up for grabs.


Read elsewhere that they were in the northern part of Manyeleti, at or around Skybed Dam. I'm not very familiar with the area as a whole so not sure which pride/prides reside in the North.
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silolweni Dam back to July 2005 

One of the five old leeupan/Mantimahle coalition AkA muntshe males .

Photos By :- Robin Kruger
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How is everyone able to find these coalitions from the KNP back in the days but no one seems to know where Othawa M/T disappeared to? I thought there's a lot of lodges in the south of KNP? Those guides must know something about Othawa M/T
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(10-23-2024, 05:36 PM)Robot00 Wrote: How is everyone able to find these coalitions from the KNP back in the days but no one seems to know where Othawa M/T disappeared to? I thought there's a lot of lodges in the south of KNP? Those guides must know something about Othawa M/T

Perhaps they went to a place where theres not many if any public roads
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