Birmingham Coalition Male Lineage

[BA0701]

(10-24-2023, 11:21 AM)BigLion39 Wrote:

(10-24-2023, 02:02 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Yes i know but I wouldn’t want sabi sands to end up like manyleti and timbavti with inbreeding

Hate to break it to ya my friend but I would put good money down on most lions in SS related generations back. That doesn't mean its that bad, depends on how close the lions inbred/line bred. Plus felines aren't like humans and although it isn't great it isn't that terrible. I mean sons with moms, stuff like that not good like Mbiri pride but what are we to do?

This thread here discusses the effects of inbreeding, and in it I shared the link that @Wyld@Heart had shared, on a study done on the crater cats. They are able to trace back their lineage more than 70 years, and in fact most of the lions born in the crater can be traced back to a single pair of lionesses, that remained following a plague outbreak. It is a great read. In a case where inbreeding has been taking place for many decades, they are now able to see some issues arising from it, such as lower sperm counts, and other things of this nature.

In fact, it is not yet at critical stages, but if not addressed it could eventually get there. Some sort of intervention will be needed at some point. I mean, if we look at Loonkito, I read that he had bred with his own granddaughter, and produced many cubs with his daughters. So, at least to my untrained eyes, it seems nature has taken such things into account, as it is bound to happen, and no way to prevent it from occurring at all.

Apologies, it seems I missed posting the link to the thread on inbreeding. Here you go:

https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-inbreed...nservation Reply

[lionuk]

4 Kambula young males together in Londolozi today
Pic credit: andreasithole

*This image is copyright of its original author

Reply

[criollo2mil]

(10-25-2023, 01:48 PM)lionuk Wrote: 4 Kambula young males together in Londolozi today
Pic credit: andreasithole

*This image is copyright of its original author

the Arsenal!!! Reply

[BA0701]

(10-25-2023, 03:46 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:

(10-25-2023, 01:48 PM)lionuk Wrote: 4 Kambula young males together in Londolozi today
Pic credit: andreasithole

*This image is copyright of its original author

the Arsenal!!!

Very intimidating looking group, for sure. If they take after their fathers, they will for sure be a problem for many in the years to come. Reply

[Rabubi]

(10-25-2023, 01:48 PM)lionuk Wrote: 4 Kambula young males together in Londolozi today
Pic credit: andreasithole

*This image is copyright of its original author

These boys are growing rapidly!! Reply

[Horizon]

" target="_blank" class="post_link">

Young males from the Kambula pride are back on MalaMala after many months. Reply

[Robot00]

Who's currently king(s) of mala mala? Reply

[Tr1x24]

(10-27-2023, 02:54 PM)Robot00 Wrote: Who's currently king(s) of mala mala?

Ndhzengas in northern half. Reply

[Robot00]

Dont think they'd want to take over their natal pride. Maybe they're just passing through to the south? Reply

[afortich]

The Kambula gang. This is in addition to the video of @Horizon above.

Reply

[Mapokser]

Huh interesting to see them in Mala Mala. I'm sure they had been avoiding there so much because it's their natal territory. Reply

[criollo2mil]

2/4 Northern Kambula Boys bonding.

They greeted each other with a nuzzle, a few bites/nips that got a little rough, then they calmed down and relaxed a for a few minutes next to each other.  

Londolozi
Credit: Pattie & George Walsh Photography & Photo Tours
October 27, 2023 Reply

Attached Files

Image(s)
           

[afortich]

Nice summary of the Nkuhuma male (NYM) by Scar

Reply

[Horizon]

" target="_blank" class="post_link">

Reply

[Tr1x24]

Reply