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Biggest Kaziranga tiger?
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Biggest Kaziranga tiger?
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 'Pckts dateline='' Wrote:'Pantherinae dateline='' Wrote: Yeah that bite force would be extreame! I would love to see another mesure of bite force, I think tigers can bite harder than what we think and have mesured before, lions alot more than the mesured one who count's. I'm sure they both do posess about the same bite force with as eachother, with a little advantage to the tiger, but from looking at their skulls I can't see why It should be a big difference!Regardless, both bite hard enough to kill any animal they can sink their teeth in to. So true! You can see that on their teeth's aswell, tiger's do seem to have longer and lions seem's to have shorter and more robust teeth's, I have seen many tigers with broken teeth's. Not so many lions!  (07-01-2014, 10:42 PM)'Pantherinae' Wrote:'Pckts dateline='' Wrote:'Pantherinae dateline='' Wrote: Yeah that bite force would be extreame! I would love to see another mesure of bite force, I think tigers can bite harder than what we think and have mesured before, lions alot more than the mesured one who count's. I'm sure they both do posess about the same bite force with as eachother, with a little advantage to the tiger, but from looking at their skulls I can't see why It should be a big difference!Regardless, both bite hard enough to kill any animal they can sink their teeth in to. Tigers have very dense canine teeth, and the captive male Amur tigers have inarguably the longest/heaviest canine teeth of all big cats. 
Tigers have longer and more robust canine teeths, they are more denser as well.
Tigers have the strongest canines of all extant felids. Tiger canines have the highest bending strength of all extant felids followed by jaguar and then the lion. (07-01-2014, 10:55 PM)'Apollo' Wrote: Tigers have longer and more robust canine teeths, they are more denser as well. Maybe even the most powerful canine teeth for the Panthera family of all time. Since some captive male Amurs do have broken the record, their canine teeth are unmatched in both size and robusticity. 'Apollo dateline='' Wrote: Tigers have longer and more robust canine teeths, they are more denser as well. Thanks for Info! But tiger seems to break their teeth's so often, maybe because so long canines combined with so much Jaw presure! (07-01-2014, 11:02 PM)'Pantherinae' Wrote:'Apollo dateline='' Wrote: Tigers have longer and more robust canine teeths, they are more denser as well. Yeah, just like the African bull elephant has the longer and heaviest tusks, yet it still got broken often. 
I have seen no more broken teeth in tigers or lions. In fact, 99% of tigers have their teeth in tact minus "Brookentooth" obviously, machlis teeth are worn down from over the years. I have also heard of many lions with broken teeth as well.
But tigers do have much larger teeth and stronger according to data. But even so, I'd imagine a lone predator would use its teeth in more violent situations than a pride lion who would probably not take such a beating on its teeth as often. 'Pckts dateline='' Wrote: I have seen no more broken teeth in tigers or lions. In fact, 99% of tigers have their teeth in tact minus "Brookentooth" obviously, machlis teeth are worn down from over the years. I have also heard of many lions with broken teeth as well. I have actually seen some pictures of tigers missing a canine, but not often, can also have something to do with male lions not hunting that often, but lions do use their jaws much when fighting. Thats how fang lost his canine!
Both use their teeth when fighting. I notice tigers tend to use a grip and hold as well while lions tend to use a hit and run tactic since usually they are fighting with odd numbers.
Some brooken teeth of lions  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author https://www.flickr.com/photos/hanilondon...otostream/ *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author Lets not derail this thread, but you can see. Many lions have lost or broken teeth. It can happen to tigers as well.  *This image is copyright of its original author But obviously neither cat is an exception.
Last thing on Canines then I'm done. I sware haha
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Pckts, different data will have different results. Just saying
 *This image is copyright of its original author Also hit and run sometimes in lions, but not often, they tend to use their mouths very often, normally right after a pawsipe, even coalition males will tear each other up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Wa4I6MKzA Possibly lions break teeth more because they tend to bite bite bite and therefore put more pressure on their teeth than the tiger if it just hangs on? I dont know for sure but interesting though. Anyways back on topic. Nice info though pckts! TFS  *This image is copyright of its original author these tigers have huge heads.  *This image is copyright of its original author mother and cub  *This image is copyright of its original author
Lioness,
Lets not get off topic. But one last thing on the "bite, bite, bite" vs "bite and hold" I would think death hold would put more pressure on a tooth because of the amount of jerking back and forth compared to a bite and release. But who knows for sure, we also don't even know if tigers that hunt in groups, (families) dont employ the same tactics. Impossible to know for sure Love the pic of the two sub adult bros together. That makes a few pics of multiple tiger males together, (none confirmed as both males) outside of the males who fed on the rhino together. I wonder if Kaziranga may lead to coalitions in tigers? Would be so awesome haha
I'm sorry but I have to go of topic one last time to, @Pckts
male lions do bite alot, and thats maybe why they do have shorter teeth's, because lions will often bite, much more than tigers. When male lions do fight they do often throw themself over eachother and bite, bite bite, often the flanks, and back is bitten aswell as legs and face. But male lions who attacks lionesses and young male lions will as tigers go for throat!
Isnt that a picture of mother and cub I believe?
Here is that one ale I believe every estimates upper 200kg and close to 300kg?  *This image is copyright of its original author
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