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(03-10-2015, 12:22 AM)'Pckts' Wrote: Another 6-7 yr old male found dead in Bandipur from a territorial fight.

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2 Tigers have been found dead ..One at Ranthambore the cub of tigress T-8 & the other around 6 years old at Bandipur Tiger Reserve. Both Tigers have died because of Territorial wars.1) Ranthambore :In yet another territorial fight at Ranthambore National Park in Sawai Madhopur, a 12-month-old male cub was found mauled to death. The carcass of the cub of tigress T-8 was found in Kundal region (Zone 6) of the park."During a safari around 10 am tourists heard noises and spotted two tigers fighting. The next day when tigress T-8 was spotted with only one cub, we started searching for the other and found his badly mutilated body under a ficus tree in Zone 6. There were injury marks all over the body. The neck bone, the femur and the ribs were cracked and the kidney was punctured. T-8 had two cubs, one male and the other female and there is a possibility that the tigress could also be injured," said Y K Sahu, field director, Ranthambore National Park.The body has been cremated after post-mortem and samples were taken for forensic examination.2) Bandipur :Fierce fight leads to fatality and in this case also the story was quite predictable and shocking as a tiger was found dead in the core zone of Bandipur tiger reserve of Karnataka on Sunday following a scuffle with another one.The tiger was found dead in Bolegudda area of Bandipur Range of this Reserve
The tiger was found dead in Bolegudda area of Bandipur Range of this ReserveRuling out the possibility of a foul play, it was perceived by the forest department officials as an unfortunate incident of intraspecific fight between two adults that led to the tragic death of one of the combative tigers.On close examination, the age of the tiger was estimated to be around six to seven years.The tiger was found dead in Bolegudda area of Bandipur Range of this Reserve which is on the tourist trail.On the other hand, another tiger was also sighted in that area which bore injuries on its face and in all probability this was the tiger which had combated and killed the other tiger that was found dead in the same area, said an official.

 



According to the Bandipur Forest Officials, Raja slaughtered this male in his turf. RIP 
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(03-14-2015, 09:27 AM)'Roflcopters' Wrote:
(03-10-2015, 12:22 AM)'Pckts' Wrote: Another 6-7 yr old male found dead in Bandipur from a territorial fight.

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2 Tigers have been found dead ..One at Ranthambore the cub of tigress T-8 & the other around 6 years old at Bandipur Tiger Reserve. Both Tigers have died because of Territorial wars.1) Ranthambore :In yet another territorial fight at Ranthambore National Park in Sawai Madhopur, a 12-month-old male cub was found mauled to death. The carcass of the cub of tigress T-8 was found in Kundal region (Zone 6) of the park."During a safari around 10 am tourists heard noises and spotted two tigers fighting. The next day when tigress T-8 was spotted with only one cub, we started searching for the other and found his badly mutilated body under a ficus tree in Zone 6. There were injury marks all over the body. The neck bone, the femur and the ribs were cracked and the kidney was punctured. T-8 had two cubs, one male and the other female and there is a possibility that the tigress could also be injured," said Y K Sahu, field director, Ranthambore National Park.The body has been cremated after post-mortem and samples were taken for forensic examination.2) Bandipur :Fierce fight leads to fatality and in this case also the story was quite predictable and shocking as a tiger was found dead in the core zone of Bandipur tiger reserve of Karnataka on Sunday following a scuffle with another one.The tiger was found dead in Bolegudda area of Bandipur Range of this Reserve
The tiger was found dead in Bolegudda area of Bandipur Range of this ReserveRuling out the possibility of a foul play, it was perceived by the forest department officials as an unfortunate incident of intraspecific fight between two adults that led to the tragic death of one of the combative tigers.On close examination, the age of the tiger was estimated to be around six to seven years.The tiger was found dead in Bolegudda area of Bandipur Range of this Reserve which is on the tourist trail.On the other hand, another tiger was also sighted in that area which bore injuries on its face and in all probability this was the tiger which had combated and killed the other tiger that was found dead in the same area, said an official.


 



According to the Bandipur Forest Officials, Raja slaughtered this male in his turf. RIP 

 


Well then the next question that needs to be asked is "why?"
Is he expanding because he wants more prey for a growing family perhaps?
More Females?
Not enough of either in his terf?
Makes you wonder.

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MYSURU: A tiger was found dead in the core area of Bandipura tiger reserve.



The foresters ruled out foul play and attributed its death to territorial fight. The tiger aged about six years was found dead at Bolegudda in Bandipur range. The carcass was located near the safari route while the field staff sighted another male tiger, aged 10 years, with injuries within five hundred meters from the spot, which is believed to have killed the cat. The spot is some 1 km from the tourist cott ..

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(03-14-2015, 11:27 PM)'Pckts' Wrote:
(03-14-2015, 09:27 AM)'Roflcopters' Wrote:
(03-10-2015, 12:22 AM)'Pckts' Wrote: Another 6-7 yr old male found dead in Bandipur from a territorial fight.

Ranth

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2 Tigers have been found dead ..One at Ranthambore the cub of tigress T-8 & the other around 6 years old at Bandipur Tiger Reserve. Both Tigers have died because of Territorial wars.1) Ranthambore :In yet another territorial fight at Ranthambore National Park in Sawai Madhopur, a 12-month-old male cub was found mauled to death. The carcass of the cub of tigress T-8 was found in Kundal region (Zone 6) of the park."During a safari around 10 am tourists heard noises and spotted two tigers fighting. The next day when tigress T-8 was spotted with only one cub, we started searching for the other and found his badly mutilated body under a ficus tree in Zone 6. There were injury marks all over the body. The neck bone, the femur and the ribs were cracked and the kidney was punctured. T-8 had two cubs, one male and the other female and there is a possibility that the tigress could also be injured," said Y K Sahu, field director, Ranthambore National Park.The body has been cremated after post-mortem and samples were taken for forensic examination.2) Bandipur :Fierce fight leads to fatality and in this case also the story was quite predictable and shocking as a tiger was found dead in the core zone of Bandipur tiger reserve of Karnataka on Sunday following a scuffle with another one.The tiger was found dead in Bolegudda area of Bandipur Range of this Reserve
The tiger was found dead in Bolegudda area of Bandipur Range of this ReserveRuling out the possibility of a foul play, it was perceived by the forest department officials as an unfortunate incident of intraspecific fight between two adults that led to the tragic death of one of the combative tigers.On close examination, the age of the tiger was estimated to be around six to seven years.The tiger was found dead in Bolegudda area of Bandipur Range of this Reserve which is on the tourist trail.On the other hand, another tiger was also sighted in that area which bore injuries on its face and in all probability this was the tiger which had combated and killed the other tiger that was found dead in the same area, said an official.






 



According to the Bandipur Forest Officials, Raja slaughtered this male in his turf. RIP 





 


Well then the next question that needs to be asked is "why?"
Is he expanding because he wants more prey for a growing family perhaps?
More Females?
Not enough of either in his terf?
Makes you wonder.

Edit: The story below


MYSURU: A tiger was found dead in the core area of Bandipura tiger reserve.



The foresters ruled out foul play and attributed its death to territorial fight. The tiger aged about six years was found dead at Bolegudda in Bandipur range. The carcass was located near the safari route while the field staff sighted another male tiger, aged 10 years, with injuries within five hundred meters from the spot, which is believed to have killed the cat. The spot is some 1 km from the tourist cott ..

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This male was an intruder in Raja's turf, that's what i meant to say and Unfortunately. As it's often the case with Raja, no male tiger has ever managed to pull off a win against him. 

I remember another case from Raja's territory in 2011 when he killed a large male tiger


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Picture courtesy of Tiger Expert BK Singh.

MYSORE: A tenyearold male tiger succumbed to his injuries in Bandipur National Park on Thursday. The tiger was severely wounded after a fight with another tiger. All attempts made by forest officials to cure the wounds failed.


Exposed injuries got infected and resulted in the ultimate death of the feline. DCF Hanumanthappa and ACFs were also present on the spot. PCCF BK Singh, wild life, visited the spot where the tiger found dead due to wounds.


I only know of two deaths linked to Raja, here's the evidence from Indianaturewatch.net regarding the recent kill.



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PRINCE PRESTIGE OF BANDIPUR
My first ever sighting of a tiger. Prince was recouping next to a water body after a territory fight with another male which got killed

http://indianaturewatch.net/displayimage.php?id=520341


It's interesting to note that Raja, despite his old age is successfully killing prime male tigers. [img]images/smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

 
Here's an interesting article on Bandipur Tiger Reserve (Below)
http://www.rediff.com/news/special/bandi...141202.htm

Life is definitely one of the hardest in this problematic Tiger Habitat and Raja seems to be the top dog here and has been since 2008.

 

 

 
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I found a great forum on Ranthambhore news

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/travelogue...in-14.html

23rd June, 2013

Asha Ram Berwa s/o Gayarsi Berwa, aged 22 was attacked & mauled by Fateh or T 42 (Male of Qualji), when he was searching for his buffalo near some farm around the Devpura Dam. Currently recuperating in a hospital and out of danger.

A classic case of man-animal conflict. Why don't the authorities take measures to stop cattle grazing in the forest?


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Lots of images that we haven't seen, check it out.
 
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The total number of tigers in Northeast is pegged at 201, which is an excellent rise from the previous count of 148 in 2010.According to all-India tiger estimation report, out of 167 tigers in Assam, over 125 are reported to be in the Kaziranga National Park. This news is a sigh of relief for authorities as the park is becoming notorious for poaching of its rhinos.M K Yadava, Kaziranga Park Director, said “It is true that number of tigers in the park is soaring. Though a park- and sanctuary-wise break-up has not been released, the frequent sightings of cubs makes it clear the number of big cats is increasing.” Mr. Yadava added “Around 20 cubs have been sighted in different areas of the park.”According to the DFO of the park, S K Seal Sarma, “The poachers do not target tigers in the park. They mostly target rhinos. Last year, 27 rhinos were killed and the count for this year has reached to three. The three tigers who lost their lives last year was owing to natural causes.”The state of Assam also has tigers in the national parks of Nameri, Manas and Orang.Arunachal Pradesh is also witnessing this increase in the number of big cats. The count has reached to 28 in this state and the PCCF (Wildlife) of Arunachal Pradesh, Onkar Sing, attribute this achievement to better habitat management and stringent protection measures. There are two tiger protect areas in Arunachal, namely Namdapha National Park and Pakke Tiger Reserve and Wildlife Sanctuary.Further, all-India tiger estimation report also mentioned that the Dampa tiger reserve in Mizoram has three tigers.
https://www.tourmyindia.com/blog/tigers-...ast-india/
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 17 tiger deaths in six states this year

At least two tigers fell prey to poachers as 17 of the big cats died in six states this year, the government on Monday said.

Union Environment Minister Prakash Javadekar told Rajya Sabha that out of the total 17 tiger deaths, two cases are of poaching while 14 are under scrutiny and one is from other causes.

Eight tigers have died in Karnataka, three in Tamil Nadu and two each in Uttar Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh. One tiger each has died in Kerala and Uttarakhand.In 2014, tiger mortality cases were 78, in which 48 are under scrutiny while 14 were confirmed cases of poaching.

16 tigers had died due to other causes.Javadekar said that while three tiger deaths had taken place last year in Kaziranga, in 2015 there was no tiger death till now while five Rhinos have died as per figures till March 3 this year.

“The general causes of tiger decline are due to poaching, degradation of forest status outside protected areas and tiger reserves owing to human pressure, fragmentation leading to loss of gene flow, man-animal conflicts and others,” the Union minister said.

He said that the government has taken many steps including legal and administrative for conservation of wild animals including tiger in the country.

The government recently said that the tiger population in the country is estimated to be around 2,226 which is a rise of over 30 per cent since the last count in 2010, according to the latest census report.

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They don't say the cause of the rest of the deaths do they?
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The case of the 15 missing tigers: Ranthambore National Park authorities believe poaching could be the reason
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Scientists from St. Petersburg State University and China studied the DNA of the tiger to prevent extinction of animals

An international team of scientists has presented a comprehensive molecular genetic model to re-evaluate the structure of populations of tiger subspecies and the relationship between them.

The study was conducted over a decade, led by Dr. Shu-Jin Luo (Shu-Jin Luo) from Peking University and Professor Stephen O'Brien (Stephen O'Brien) from the Center for Genomic bioinformatics and F.G.Dobrzhanskogo St. Petersburg State University. The meeting brought together scholars from China, the US, Britain, Israel, Russia and Qatar. Results of the study will help develop a strategy for the conservation of each surviving subspecies and stop the complete extinction of tigers, scientists say.

"The opening of St. Petersburg State University scientists and Beijing University will help in the implementation of forensics. Scientists are convinced that as recent advances in the analysis of human DNA have revolutionized the investigation of serious crime, DNA profiles of the Tiger will be a great help in the protection of nature. For example, engineers can find geographical origin of the tiger, illegally caught or killed by poachers for the skin of an animal from a fragment of his bones, "- noted in a press release.

The work is based on the sequences of the DNA of 145 tigers, including the so-called "voucher specimens" of animal tissues with confirmed geographical origin.

In its work, the researchers also analyzed samples of extinct subspecies (Transcaucasian, Javanese and Balinese) stored in the Eurasian museums. The result has been to establish clear molecular genetic differences between the Amur, Bengal, Indo-Chinese, and Sumatran tigers. Identified diagnostic markers will allow scientists to more effectively carry out artificial reproduction subspecies of tigers in captivity, highlighted in the St. Petersburg State University.

Scientists first described a complex historical process of the formation of the species and its division into subspecies. The report on the study was published in the online version of the scientific publication Journal of Heredity, it will print No. 1 May.

There are eight distinct subspecies of tiger, allocated by geographic origin and individual morphometric characteristics. Four of them - Javanese, Balinese, Caucasian and Chinese - in the twentieth century have disappeared from their natural habitat by humans. Their populations, to very small and vulnerable, preserved only in the territory of Bengal (India), the Indochinese Peninsula, Sumatra and the Amur River (Russian Far East and northeastern part of China).

Currently, tigers are endangered. Their habitats are isolated from each other, and the total number of animals in the wild population - only 3000.
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On another thread, I questioned whether there was a cause/effect relationship between the expansion of humanity and the creation of Panthera subspecies.   I said:

"I sometimes wonder the degree of human civilization's effect on subspeciation.  It seems to make sense that as humans inhabited larger areas, the populations of big cats became more fragmented.  This limited the influx of fresh genetics and the populations became more isolated and genetically distinct.  If humans went away, wouldn't the ranges of the different subspecies within a species increase and thereby eventually overlap?  Although I could be wrong, I'm pretty certain that a male Bengal tiger would see a female South China tiger as just another female tiger. The distinct DNA differences that are the basis of subspeciation would eventually disappear, right?"

I am not saying that I am smarter than the scientists that Sanjay has referenced, but if my conclusion that subspeciation in Panthera is truly and specifically an effect caused by human expansion... then are not the efforts to preserve the genetics of humanity caused isolated DNA specifics (subspecies) not really all that important?  
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@Siegfried , Your point is valid, But before human sub species of panthers family do exists. Though increase of human population on planet and drifting of earth subcontinent caused them to adopt different habitat and thus they evolved according to that. We know that most of panthera family emerges from small cat family and they spread on the earth.
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@sanjay   I agree with you regarding continental drift and natural environmental changes clearly have a direct effect on evolution. 

That is what makes polar bears better adapted to arctic conditions than brown bears are.  Those two different species are distinct from each other resulting from an organic natural cause ie. their differing environments.  

I question the CAUSE of the current subspecies of Panthera.  Are the lions in eastern Africa different than the lions in western Africa for any reason OTHER than all the people in between them?  Isn't it the same with Bengal and South China tigers?  Different leopard subspecies? 

It seems these subspecies might be more a result of what could be looked at as an inorganic artificial human created cause.... isolating populations within the same evolved species being caused by nothing but man's expansion.

For example, I don't doubt for a second that there are real genetic differences between the population of pumas isolated in the state of Florida when compared with the pumas that live in the western US.  However, I want to know if they result from the direct effect of the human settlement of North America. 

I therefore merely question the importance of conservation based on maintaining what might be MAN MADE subspecies created by and maintained by man.

Sorry to hijack the thread but I wanted to directly reply to Sanjay's post.     

 
 

 

 
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I think that both have strong points of view, specially in the tiger side. However, on the lion side, the evolution of the clades is a little more complex, as genetic evidence suggest that the specimens in West Africa-North Africa-Persia/India are a different subspecies than those of East/Southern Africa, which are also separated in clades (different enough genetically, but not enough for been "subspecies").

This theme is very important for conservation, I think we should create a new topic specifically about this. Now, we have more than enough data on lion evolution (fossils and DNA) and presently new studies on tigers also present a clear panorama about they evolution too.

On the leopard side, I don't have many data, but if we search we will have it. On the jaguar side, I just remember one study when it was established that the entire modern population, from Mexico to Argentina, is one single species with no subspecies and that the morphological differences are just clinal and don't represent enough differences to represent "subspecies" per se (the 70% rule of Kitchener).
 

 
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@Siegfried , I agree with your conclusion. It may be possibility. And I think this is great point to discussion.
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Forest officials on Monday busted a case of tiger poaching carried out inside the buffer zone of Tadoba Andhari Tiger Reserve (TATR). Officials of buffer and territorial forest nabbed a gang of tiger poachers in intelligence-based raids in Mul town and Bhadurna village inside the buffer zone. Five tiger nails and two canines along with some whiskers and handful of disposed of bones of a poached tigress were recovered during the daylong raids."The tigress was poached in compartment no. 485 in protected forest of Mul range around six months back, before Diwali last year. The poachers had laid electrified wire for herbivores, but a full-grown tigress got trapped in it and died. The poachers removed all 18 nails, four canines and whiskers from the body and hacked the animal into pieces. The body parts were later burned at the same spot and unburnt remains were buried in the sandy bed of Uma river," said ACF VW Morey, who was part of the investigating team.The poaching came to light after officials got a tip-off from Umeshsing Jhire of Wildlife Protection Society of India (WPSI). Jhire informed the officials about one Dilip Madavi who was willing to sell the tiger nails and canines. Madavi, who hails from Bhadurna village, was then lured with a handsome offer for tiger nails and canines and summoned with the booty to Mul."As soon as he stepped out of the MSRTC bus on Mul bus stop, he was nabbed by sleuths led by RFO AM Pathan and forester Vinod Jambhule. Madavi was then taken to Mul range office, where, during interrogation, he revealed the names of his accomplices. Two more accused Ramprasad Gurnule and Vinayak Mallerwar was arrested Bhadurna village later in the afternoon," Morey said.Investigators took the accused trio to the place of poaching to re-create the crime scene. They were also taken to place in Uma river where they had buried the remains of poached tigress. The unburnt remains, buried into the sandy bed by poachers, were retrieved on their identification."We have so far recovered only five nails and two canines of the tigress. The accused have claimed selling off the remaining nails and canines to five people. We have got their names and addresses and they will be arrested soon," said deputy director, TATR (buffer), Gajendra Narwane. Raids were underway till late in the night to round up the customers who had purchased the tiger parts.Images : Nikhil Tambekar
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