Big cat and Bear tale

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(05-04-2017, 04:34 AM)Garfield Wrote: But about the bears and tigers, I was talking to this bear guy on youtube, and he was from another country, I think it was Russia some where around Europe, and he was tellin everyone they have it all backwards, tigers just don't take out grown bears, here's what he posted to me. I thought it was funny becaz all the tiger bros were getting all mad and I'm like give the bear some props guys, I mean their built tough different than cats, stuff is legit.  Here's the guys post below, its gut biologist and stuff in it. 

The male Amur tiger will predate Asiatic black bears and sub adult and female brown bears. According to telemetry data on tigers from 1992-2003, half the attacks on brown bears occur during hibernation but no males were killed despite their vulnerable state of hibernation.. According to former Russian biologist S.P. Kucherenko & early Naturalist N.A. Baikov tigers will only attack bears of similar or smaller size which translates to female and sub adult bears, not the larger male brown bear. There has been no record of male brown bears killed by tigers but there are records of male Amur tigers killed by brown bears & some of them were cannibalized. According to Russian biologists I.V. Seryodkin, N.A. Raikov, & Park Manager G.F. Gorokhov, adult Usurri female brown bear are not easy prey for dominant male Amur tigers either - some of the larger female brown bears have inflicted severe injury to the victorious but bloodied tiger. Adult male Far Eastern brown bears often use and also usurp Amur tiger carrion which sometimes include multiple tigers in the form a mother tiger and her 2-3 year old large adult size offspring. SO THE ANSWER IS, tigers may kill adult males bears while hibernating or via ambush, but on face-to-face encounters, a male brown bear (specially the large far eastern brown bear) could kill even the largest siberian tiger.....................................................................

@Garfield 

Boy, you've badly been MISINFORMED, big time!! That Russian guy is a Youtube troll, who hates Tigers with a passion! I've seen his posts, their ridiculous. When i showed him accounts of Tigers dominating and killing Bears, he just started swearing, going mad and he even threatened a little 11 year old girl over this debate.

First of all, NO Bear can take on 3 Tigers and win, no way! I'd bet my life on it, that the account is fake, period. You can't just read some captive accounts and get to conclusion from there. There's captive accounts of Lions killing huge Bears in fights, so it makes no difference.

You said "Grown bears aren't taken"...again, you're totally wrong! There's MANY accounts of full-grown adult Brown bears being killed and eaten by Tigers. The Amur tiger Dale, who was a habitual Bear killer, killed numerous adult Brown bears and 2 adult male Black bears. Two of the Bears he killed were after prolonged FIGHTS. Tigers Misha and Dima all actively hunted Bears and killed grown adult bears with no problems.

Tigers tackle bears, much larger then themselves. Bears are generally afraid of Tigers and run away from their tracks, And an account of a Tigress that easily killed an entire Brown bear family, without ambush. (Mammals of the soviet union)

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Large bears were chased from their dens by Tigers!

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200kg Tiger that specialized in killing Brown bears BIGGER then he is.

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Bears prefer to contest the much smaller female tigers, lest it become an item of Tiger diet.

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Tigers attack and eat both Brown and Black bears on a fairly regular basis. A very large Brown bear gets observed running away from Tiger tracks. Russian brown bears belong to the same species as the American grizzly, and can reach 1000lb in weight. In spite of this, their known to FLEE at the sight of a Tiger. Tigers pick fights with Bears, prosecute the battles, and proceed to tear the Bears apart, limb from limb! (John vaillant)
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WGvV...ear&source

Large adult Brown bear killed by a Tiger

That Russian youtube troll, will never acknowledge this evidence. Don't listen to idiots like that, who spread lies and false propoganda. Tigers are WELL KNOWN to dominate, hunt and kill adult Brown bears. Even in the 44 direct confrontations observed in the wild (Fights)..the Tigers killed the Bears in majority of the fights. Many large adult Brown bears have been killed and eaten by Tigers. The Amur tiger is widely acknowledged and considered by ALL the Russian locals, hunters, guards, natives and biologists, as the Undipusted King of the Russian forests and the Master of the Taiga! Reply