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Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage
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Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage
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Lions dont plan ahead that far. Nor do they spend time with such political strategies.
They are not going to add another mouth to feed or rival over mating for a hypothetical future conflict. 
04-16-2022, 12:36 AM
( This post was last modified: 04-16-2022, 12:38 AM by afortich
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(04-16-2022, 12:05 AM)Potato Wrote:(04-15-2022, 11:40 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Its not like they need the numbers to take over the Mhangeni pride.It seems they will have to compete with PC males for that pride so the supperior numbers would be very helpfull. I agree that an extra hand/paw is always very helpful. (04-16-2022, 12:36 AM)HDuco Ndona Wrote: Lions dont plan ahead that far. Nor do they spend time with such political strategies. True. It is only my wish that they add a new partner for their sake in a future clash.  (04-15-2022, 11:40 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: For Nym and Nhenha it would be far more efficient to just kill Darkmane and enjoy a bigger share of the spoils Not at all. Having one more member would make them the second biggest threat in ss. None of these two member coalitions would pose a threat, If they run into each other before NYM/Nhena have challenged for a territory, DM would be a great addition to that squad. Numbers are irreplaceable for a coalition, everything else is secondary. I don't see any circumstances where killing DM would be efficient, why take on that fight when you don't need to, DM is a free agent with nothing and no one would gain anything from killing him. If lions were so unwilling to share with each other, there would only be lone males, so I don't think that's an issue at all. (04-15-2022, 11:40 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Though in theory if they stay close enough, they can mate with the females and take their kills just fine and ultimately that's the only thing any male lion wants. If that was all male lions wanted, they wouldn't have territories or stay with the pride long enough to protect the cubs to sub-adulthood. They have evolved to coexist with prides and if that wasn't the case, the species wouldn't survive this long. (04-16-2022, 01:42 AM)sik94 Wrote:If strength in numbers were all that matters. We wouldn't have separate coalitions. Everyone would just merge in one huge coalition. What we normally see is much smaller groups.(04-15-2022, 11:40 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: For Nym and Nhenha it would be far more efficient to just kill Darkmane and enjoy a bigger share of the spoils Often the only big groups you see are those that have been together from when they were cubs. But even those often split apart. Ultimately every lion is in there for themselves. Competition within a coalition can become just as fierce as those between outsiders. (04-16-2022, 01:51 AM)sik94 Wrote:(04-15-2022, 11:40 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Though in theory if they stay close enough, they can mate with the females and take their kills just fine and ultimately that's the only thing any male lion wants. They protect their territory which houses easy access to food and perceived mating opportunities. Having a pride is always far more cosy living than nomadic life. If they feel they can no longer find those in their current territory they will expand or in some cases abandon their territory, pride and cubs and all. Overtime the bonds between them and the pride may become strong enough to keep them around. But no male coalition takes over a pride with any thoughts about how or if they can keep it in the future. Even if they know they will be chased out tomorrow. They will still go for it, as tonight they will have sex.   
Here’s some footage from a couple of days ago with Blondie and Mohawk bonding.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/Cc73d1-qafq/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=  
Dark Mane came back to Elephant Plain Camp.
Credit: Matakataka safaris  *This image is copyright of its original author
  (05-03-2022, 02:19 AM)1ofCourage Wrote:He looks decent considering circumstances he was in. Also being in EP he has good odd of linking up with Talamati pride again.(05-02-2022, 03:18 PM)lionuk Wrote: Dark Mane came back to Elephant Plain Camp.Dark mane needs a partner or something. He looks weary. (05-02-2022, 03:18 PM)lionuk Wrote: Dark Mane came back to Elephant Plain Camp. DM is definitely the most interesting Avoca due to his movements alone. I know that Lions lose mane volume in the summer but he’s lost a LOT of mane. He must be under a lot of stress due to his unstable situation. Hope he’s not suffering from any illness on top of everything else. Despite all of this he looks like he’s doing okay. Hope he sticks around in EP and meets back up with the Talamatis. |
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