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Asiatic Lion - Data, Pictures & Videos

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Asian Lion Great Picture

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Cologne Zoo, Germany.


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Chester Zoo, England.


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Edinburgh Zoo, Scotland.

Beautifull Barbary lions, don't you think? NOOOOO, this are CAPTIVE Indian lions. [img]images/smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
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They don't look like their wild counter part from India. Strange! Look like African lion to me. How can you be sure of this ? Just asking !
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Check the zoos, look they webpages, these are among the few pure-blood Asian lions in captivity around the world and outside Indian zoos.

By the way, I reached the 200 posts!!!


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GuateGojira, creating history!
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(05-03-2014, 09:49 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote:
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Cologne Zoo, Germany.


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Chester Zoo, England.


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Edinburgh Zoo, Scotland.

Beautifull Barbary lions, don't you think? NOOOOO, this are CAPTIVE Indian lions. [img]images/smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

 


No way, their manes are to large and black, everybody knows they are barbary. DUH....

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No way those lions are Asiatic Gautegojira with such large manes they won't survive for long in hot central India & to maintain the genepool in captivity would be expensive.

a wild Gir lion

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What do mean by that Vinod? Africa is every bit as hot as India.
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(05-06-2014, 05:00 PM)'Richardrli' Wrote: What do mean by that Vinod? Africa is every bit as hot as India.

 

yes, but those lions look like Nubians & one of the reasons cited by scientists for the development of long-haired manes in this subspecie is the lower temperatures in the Atlas Mountains.


 

 

 
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The size of a mane is not determined in the "gene pool"
A large black mane is determined by outside forces i.e. Climate and testostorone. A large or skimpy mane is not genetically passed on, it is a sign used to display health. And depending on the area it will be larger or smaller. You could take a gir lion from the wild and move it to Harbin park tomorrow, and it will have a large mane and shaggy coat if it survives. All the lions in Harbin are African and if you look at them, they have longer fur and much thicker and denser manes.
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(05-06-2014, 03:48 PM)'Vinod' Wrote: No way those lions are Asiatic Gautegojira with such large manes they won't survive for long in hot central India & to maintain the genepool in captivity would be expensive.

a wild Gir lion

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The above statement is in response to this.
 
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(05-06-2014, 09:56 PM)'Pckts' Wrote:
(05-06-2014, 03:48 PM)'Vinod' Wrote: No way those lions are Asiatic Gautegojira with such large manes they won't survive for long in hot central India & to maintain the genepool in captivity would be expensive.


 


The above statement is in response to this.
 


 

I stick to what I've said


 

 
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Ok, but you are saying that the zoo in which the lions live, the studbooks which the lions are from, the breeding program that has been monitored and studied since the lions where placed in, the dna that the lions have and the zoo, are all lying?
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a beautiful specimen straight from the wilds

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a captive Gir lion from a zoo in North India

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mating pair from a zoo in South India

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here's a specimen from the Sakkarbaug zoo which is in closest proximity to Gir National Park, this zoo also serves as a breeding centre for the Asiatic Lions & animals from here are sent to zoos across India & elsewhere.

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To maintain a pure genepool wouldn't it be important to regularly procure animals from the wild? Rarely the Indian govt. gives away Gir lions or Bengal tigers under exchange program to other countries, honestly I've never read about any account recently

 
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( This post was last modified: 02-12-2018, 05:51 PM by Rishi )

(05-06-2014, 03:48 PM)'Vinod' Wrote: No way those lions are Asiatic Gautegojira with such large manes they won't survive for long in hot central India & to maintain the genepool in captivity would be expensive.

a wild Gir lion

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Just two "little" things:

1. The correct name is "GuateGojira". 2. Those lions posted by me are 100% pure captive Indian (A.K.A. Asian) lions. Check these other specimens:
[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Panthera_leo_persica_male.jpg/1024px-Panthera_leo_persica_male.jpg" class="lozad max-img-size" alt="" title="">
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From Tiergarten Nürnberg, in Germany - Asiatischer Löwe (Panthera leo persica) im Tiergarten Nürnberg.
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Lucifer the Asiatic lion and his daughter Rubi examine a carved pumpkin at London Zoo.
Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthpi...ml?image=6

There can't be any doubt, those big maned lions are pure Indian lions in captivity (IF there is something like "Indian" lions, check Valmik Thapar's argument, but nevermind).

It is incredible to discover that Barbary lions were (are still?) almoust equal to the captive Indian lions while the wild West-Central African lions are equal to the wild Indian lions. Genetic and morphology clearly shows that Indian-Barbary-West/Central Africa lions are the same subspecies. [img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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