American Lion (Panthera atrox)

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[brotherbear]

Your thoughts please: Panthera atrox: Was he a lone hunter like a modern-day tiger or a group hunter like a modern-day lion?
Any evidence? Reply

[Spalea]

@brotherbear :

About #17: no absolute certainties. 

Some are pleading for the solitary life (1), others for the social life (2):

(1): http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/spec...atrox.html

(2): https://blueline2011.wordpress.com/2011/...ican-lion/

I would be inclined in favor of an intermediate hypothesis, although being able to be solitary hunters, the American lions would have hunted in small groups (from 1 to 3 males, idem for the females...). But it's difficult to imagine them hunting in large groups like the extant African lions. That's only my opinion... Reply

[brotherbear]

I agree with the "small group" theory; my thoughts as well. Perhaps one male with maybe two or three females. Male coalition I think less likely. Reply

[Spalea]

(01-25-2018, 04:40 PM)brotherbear Wrote: I agree with the "small group" theory; my thoughts as well. Perhaps one male with maybe two or three females. Male coalition I think less likely.

Maybe we can imagine 2 brothers, or two males, living and hunting together, a little bit like the Asiatic lions. From time to time they interfered with a group of females... In this case, the preys being able to be much bigger than in the extant forest of Gir (for exemple antiquus American buffalo), they could hunt in bigger groups (from 4 to 6-7 big cats). Reply

[epaiva]

Panthers atrox skull found in the permafrost of an Alaskan gold mine.
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[epaiva]

Statues of Panthera atrox outside of the Paige Museum of la brea tar pits
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[epaiva]

American Lion
Book Prehistoric America - A journey through the Ice Age and Beyond (Miles Barton, Nigel Bean, Stephen Duanleavy, Ian Gray, Adam White

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[epaiva]

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[GrizzlyClaws]

(08-13-2018, 07:35 PM)epaiva Wrote: Credit to @nhmla

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This is de facto Panthera spelaea vereshchagini, which has been misidentified as Panthera atrox since the beginning. Reply

[epaiva]

(08-13-2018, 10:36 PM)GrizzlyClaws Wrote:

(08-13-2018, 07:35 PM)epaiva Wrote: Credit to @nhmla

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This is de facto Panthera spelaea vereshchagini, which has been misidentified as Panthera atrox since the beginning.

Incredible it was a big mistake by the persons that published it, members of Natural History Museum of Los Angeles Reply

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The Panthra atorx's structure

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The skeptical 

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[Smilodon-Rex]

(06-14-2018, 04:30 AM)epaiva Wrote: American Lion
Book Prehistoric America - A journey through the Ice Age and Beyond (Miles Barton, Nigel Bean, Stephen Duanleavy, Ian Gray, Adam White

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Most of the prehistoric lion's artwork are based on the modern lioness, however, it can't show how strong these large cats. BTW, this is panthera spelaea in Alaska not panthera atrox Reply

[Smilodon-Rex]

(08-13-2018, 10:36 PM)GrizzlyClaws Wrote:

(08-13-2018, 07:35 PM)epaiva Wrote: Credit to @nhmla

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This is de facto Panthera spelaea vereshchagini, which has been misidentified as Panthera atrox since the beginning.

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@GrizzlyClaws , The Panthera atrox's skull was discovered in Alberta, the Canada's province, 28,940±240 RCYBP . According to the Ross.Barnett's Twitter Reply

[Smilodon-Rex]

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The American Lion's preys, compared with Smilodon,  American lion may be more interested in horse and camel than bison Reply