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Poll: In your opinion, how much maximum weight can a human lift during an adrenaline rush?
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Human Strength

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( This post was last modified: 07-14-2016, 10:40 PM by Pckts )

"that he is utilizing has some sort of genetic defect which grows his arm triple the size of the other arm (forgot name of condition), "
That isn't correct, many pro arm wrestling grow massive forearms, since that is what they use to arm wrestle.
There are a few that do have genetic predispositions though, like Schlit or Gabb, but that is the exception not the norm.

Here is the arm wrestling champ against the mountain, he has no deformity, just massive forearms from years and years of arm wrestling.







"765-pounds raw @ 242-pound weight class"
Not sure what this has to do with anything?

Here are the Deadlift records and the weight classes
Class Lift Lifter Country Year Fed

123 634 Lamar Gant USA 1980 AAU*
132 628 Lamar Gant USA 1981 IPF
148 697 Dan Austin USA 12/02/93 IPF
165 760 Dmitriy Nasonov RUS 12/06/15 WRPF
181 791 Ed Coan USA 1984 USPF
198 870 Andrey Belyaev Russia 06/21/14 BB
220 901 Ed Coan USA 1991 USPF
242 921 Yury Belkin Russia 06/05/15 WRPF
275 915 Aria Attia USA 12/05/15 SPF
308 939 K Konstantinovs Latvia 2009 AWPC
SHW 1,015 Benedikt Magnusson ISL 04/02/11 HARDCORE

http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/records/raw/world

These are the mens raw world records


"But a ton? "
I'm the one that said there isn't a chance that andrei could lift a ton, and showed how fake it was.


"A professional 400-pound strongman like Eddie Hall might deadlift half a ton, but a 180-pound brown bear (referring to the study I once posted) could do much more vertically with ease."
Maybe it could, maybe it couldn't. The fact remains that we don't know what the bear was lifting, how it was being lifted nor if it's comparable to a dl.
Scientists aren't weight lifters, they are usually the furthest thing from it. So I wouldn't base a conclusion off of their observations unless you see it for yourself.

"Most professional strongmen would struggle to the extreme to drag a 1300-pound moose carcass across a tiny grass field, but a much smaller bear and big cat can drag that weight with their arms at very extreme ease, and with their jaws, only a slightly greater struggle."

I have never seen a small bear drag a large moose carcass, I have seen a good size bear drag a young moose across short grass. But that is a young moose, probably around 450lb mark, I highly doubt any big cat or bear is dragging a 1300 lb carcass with ease unless they are large individuals.
Animals are also using 4 legs plus in big cats case, a flexible spine to drag compared to a human that would be walking backwards on two legs, unless you put a harness on a human, and we all know what humans can pull. (planes, trucks etc.)

But I do know that 300lb men can drag 1000+ lbs, and I think that is pretty comparable to bears of 300lbs or less.

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"I recently dragged a 1000+ pound sled up a grade at the Sin City Strongman 4.  I took 3rd in the event by a few tenths of a second but I believe only 5 of the 15 of us finished."
(that's amateur btw)

"A fully-grown tiger may not be as strong as the strongest man in some aspects, but that is only because the animal isn't built for those movements, not because the animal can't produce enough muscular/torque force for those movements."

Exactly!
Same goes for man..

Read Ursus Arctos' post about the muscular differences between a lion and and a human from the Carnivora forums:
Can't read carnivora since Taipan decided to ban anyone who disagrees with him.

"Strongmen are hugely inflexible, and only have strong limbs"
Not true, many strongman are very flexible and explosive. I know numerous who have 50''+ Box jumps or do the splits, etc.
Flexibility is a skill trained, you practice it, you can get better at it. (some people are more flexible than others naturally of course, same goes for anything)


"n short, big cat or bear vs human at equal weight is just strength vs strength in different aspects."
Agree

I am in no way saying humans are as strong as equal sized big cats or bears when it comes to similar feats of strength, we aren't built for the hardships that they are, but the sacrifices we made in strength were because we evolved in a more beneficial way for our species.(walking up right for one)
But I certainly think that too many people on certain forums just think that humans are weaklings, We are stronger than most know or realize.

But I'm not even sure how the debate got here, it started with the fact that andreis "feat of strength" was fake, that was all I was saying.
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Human Strength - Polar - 05-27-2016, 07:28 PM
RE: Human Strength - Pckts - 05-27-2016, 08:37 PM
RE: Human Strength - Polar - 05-28-2016, 02:53 AM
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RE: Human Strength - Pckts - 06-01-2016, 11:12 PM
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RE: Human Strength - Polar - 06-02-2016, 12:07 AM
RE: Human Strength - brotherbear - 06-01-2016, 11:40 PM
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RE: Human Strength - Pckts - 06-02-2016, 12:39 AM
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