Dholes (Cuon alpinus)

[smedz]

(01-27-2019, 12:30 PM)Wolverine Wrote:

(01-26-2019, 03:15 AM)smedz Wrote:  The only way I'll ever believe these tales is if I ever see a film, photograph, or an actually verified account. Not eyewitness testimony, the weakest form of evidence.

Eyewitnessing is the main form of the field zoology since centuries. If we deny eyewitnessing there is nothing to be left from traditional science. Videos and advanced cameras exist from several decades. What else could have done a classical biologist or hunter than to observe and register on paper. To "prove" something in the science doesnt mean to make a photo or video, that's ridicolous. When Jane Goodal observed chimps or Diane Fossey - gorillas their main instruments were notebook and pencil, they didn't need to prove their theories by videos, nevertheless we believe them.


You need a photo or video prove. Ok, you can for now (temporarily) consider the video showing how pack of AWD (African wild dogs) attacked the lioness, (posted by Rishi) as a 50% prove that same thing could be done by IWD (Indian wild dogs) to tiger; there is no big difference. Look carefuly what could eventually happen to the tiger:

Filming in the open plains of Africa is 50 times easier than filming in the dense jungles of India and India is still not so attractive for proffesional photographs. To every gaur hunted by tiger in India shot on camera we have probably 200 videos of cape bufallos hunted by lions filmed in Africa. So in order to film a tiger attacked by IWD probably we need 200 more years.... And when this happen probably we're  not gonna see almost nothing from the scene due to the branches and the leafes of the trees. Only option is development of some new technologies permiting jungles to be screened or thousands of drones...

I think brother you misunderstand what I'm trying to say. I'm not trying to convince that dholes attacked and killed tigers but only try to convince that there is enough high possibility something like this did happen. I don't believe 100% in dholes killing tigers, probably... 50/50, nor less than 50% and no more than 50%.

Here is piece of news about attack from 2013, I think not very reliable, that's why I'm not posting the info, only give a link, from Panna NP:

https://zeenews.india.com/news/eco-news/...77236.html

Well here's the difference, those people's observations didn't involve apes acting suicidal.

Seriously, what evoloutionary logic is there to have that many vital pack members killed off just to kill something. Also, it's been like what, more than 50 years and with many studies done and many scientists in the field and no one has ever found the corpse of a dead tiger killed by dholes? Doesn't that at least sound a bit fishy to you? Reply