The Birmingham Males

[Slayerd]

(10-31-2021, 01:44 PM)Potato Wrote:

(10-31-2021, 09:05 AM)Slayerd Wrote: The Souther Matimbas lost it very quickly after running from the Bboys to the Matshipiri.

That is because of direct competition, not because of the location. Prime Matshapiris were not to be mess with and the Birminghams especially not quite in their prime anymore rather wouldn't do better than Matimbas if they were at their place. Your list of coalitions defeated by Birminghams some absurd. Neither PC males or Nwalungu or Nwas ever challanged Birminghams. Each of them moved to the other arenas to contest other lands. You even mentioned in your post some transpasing youngsters mentioned by Mala Mala. They weren't even photographed. They easly would be just some 2 and half or so year olds. They also definitelly were not challangers to Birminghams lands. The only challanges Birminghams faced in the last 2 years were single Othawa male and 2 Avocas. Also even Avocas did not pushed on them too hard and still focus more around Nkuchuma pride insteed on taking over Kambula pride.

(10-31-2021, 09:05 AM)Slayerd Wrote: Western Sabi Sands that the Mapogos, Majingilane and the Southern Matimbas held at the end of their reigns was far easier to hold.

Lol you must be joking. Holding from 6 Matimbas (it that case it was rather just recon mission similar to 4 Nwas vs Birminghams, but still rather we would all agree to Matimbas were much stronger coalition than Nwas) and from 4 Salatis was easy and holding from 2 Avocas was very hard xD Times at the end of Mapogos reign (2011/2012) were the times of the strongers competition in Sabi Sands in the last 2 dekades, maybe even by far, while last years 2018-2021 were one of the easiest if not the easiest in terms of the male lions competition in Sabi Sands. Now the competition is a bit stronger with arrival of Imbali male, coming of age of PC males and N'was getting older and stronger, but those are still rather easy times with even big piece of land (Singita) being still at vacat. The current times are not even comparable to 2011/2012

It is the location, the Matshipiri Males pushed them into other males, in fact they pushed them north into the Bboys who in early 2017, Nhenha and Mfumo sent them running in Cheetah Plains. Next point I never said defeated not once in my post like some type of war, I was speaking to the defense of their territory and pushing other males out in order to protect their territory. Why do you think the PC boy, Nwalungu Males and Nwaswitshaka moved to compete for other lands? Was it just a feeling? You say the 4 Nwaswitshaka wasnt challenging the Bboys? They were clearly making noise or the Bboys wouldn't have even come south and the Bboys sent them running south as 2 vs 4. The Bboys did exactly what the Mapogos did with the 6 Matimbas, they sent possible challengers running. Im not going to compare this coalition to that coalition like you do. I'm comparing location, western Sabi Sand can be pushed from far less choke points then central. That's obvious. You don't even realize why lions even push territories. It's not because this lion is stronger than that lion, it's because of pressure and presence. You don't know how all these things would have played out in other times. You're just using a time where lion warfare was more extreme to judge the Bboys when you have no idea. Reply