Man-eaters

[sanjay]

I am not sure, But Due to recent killing of forest guard name Rampal by the Ranthombore one of most famous tiger (T-24), Some people are calling him Mean eater (Aadam Khor).
According to the sources he has killed 4 people so far. The first one was partly eaten, the second one almost completely, the third one was being "cleaned up" for eating before others from the Forest Department aggressive pushed the tiger of the body and in the fourth case(This one) many people landed up there within seconds.
This statement is none other than one of the most biggest name in India wildlife Mr Aditya Singh. And unfortunately he consider him a man eater. He want him to be shot dead.

His main post that clarify the incident
Yesterday (8th May 2015) a dominant male tiger, called Ustaad or T 24, who is at the end of his prime attacked and killed a Forest Guard called Rampal Saini in the evening. There are lots of versions going around and few, if any of them, are close to the truth. I reached there 20 minutes after the incident happened and this is what I saw:

"I was on a safari in Ranthambhore national park with my friend Dharmendra Khandal of Tiger Watch. At around 1805 hours we were parked near a lake when we heard a wireless message in a Forest Department jeep that was parked next to us, about a tiger attacking a forest guard near the “barrier” (very close to the main gate of the park). We rushed towards the location and by the time we reached we were told that Forest Guard Rampal Saini was attacked and killed by a tiger. His was taken to the hospital but was declared dead on arrival. Everyone present there was talking about how a young tiger called “Sultan” (or T 72) had attacked the guard. However none of the people present there had seen this happen. In fact no one present there had even seen a tiger.
At that time we were not sure if it was a leopard or a tiger, let alone which tiger. A few minutes after we reached there Dharmendra spoke to the DFO Mr. Sudarshan Sharma, who was on his way back from Jaipur after attending a meeting of the state Wild Board. He told us to wait there for ACF Daulat Singh to reach and we did not have to wait long. Dharmendra, a few forest guards and I jumped into the ACF’s jeep and we went out to search for the tiger to identify the individual. In the meantime the ACF, who has a near lifetime of experience in handling man animal conflict, had evacuated the area and asked a few other Forest Department vehicle to park strategically to search for the tiger. While we ere looking around for the tiger, we got a message from one of the Forest vehicles that the tiger had just been seen where the guard was killed. We rushed back and found T 24 or Ustaad standing over the same spot where the guard was killed. We found him sniffing the entire area and then looking for the body. The tiger was in an aggressive mood and charged at the one of the Forest Department vehicles. After searching for the body for some time the tiger gave up and slowly started walking towards the Singhdwar gate, all the while marking his territory.
We followed in the ACF’s jeep and just as we crossed the Misradhara gate, Dharmendra fell down from the jeep as the driver braked hard to stop going over a big rock. The tiger instantly turned around and started coming towards our vehicle in a manner that could be only be explained as stalking. Dharmendra jumped back in the jeep just before the driver reversed back and the tiger sniffed the area where Dharmendra had fallen down. Around 1920 the tiger disappeared in the woods heading towards the Sultanpur area."

For the Killed Forest Guard, His words are like this-

"Rampal Mali - a forest guard that I knew for over 18 years was killed by a tiger near the main gate of the Ranthambhore National Park last evening. A sad day. A few years ago we had tried, unsuccessfully, to save this same guard's son's life after he was bitten by a cobra. Rest in Peace Rampal - you will be missed."

Below is complete conversation on this matter from the page of aditya singh. Must read

Viren Mohan: Aditya.... what will be the likely fate of this tiger, given its stalking of Dharmendra, and its 4 victims already? Has it consumed any of its previous victims?

Aditya Singh: The first one was partly eaten, the second one almost completely, the third one was being "cleaned up" for eating before others from the Forest Department aggressive pushed the tiger of the body and in this case many people landed up there within seconds. Yes he is eating those he kills.

Trayambak Ojha: Thanks a lot Dicky, this helped clear the air over the issue direct from the horse's mouth. I just hope Rampalji gets peace and his family gets over his demise in any way as possible. Would definitely contribute in any way possible.

Debasis Bose: Thank you Aditya for the information.

Subhankar Paul: Hope at last we get a credible version.

Shivir Chordia: Always read about such stuff in stories, hearing what you say, makes me belive that tigers do change when they taste human blood. This is a potentially a dangerous tiger now.

    Aditya Singh: Yes very dangerous
   

Pradeep G. Kothari: Aditya Singh ji, the irreparable loss is done, what next ?

Aditya Singh: The tiger has to go.

    Shaz Syed: heart breaking
    

Radhaswami Bangale: It's a tragic incident. May God bless him peace

Suchandra Kundu: I was just waiting for your account.. Thanks My deep condolences to the bereaved family

Donny Singh: Not a good sign... All the makings of a Maneater... Though I pray not

Bhanu Devgan: that's sad .....

Rajneesh Chaudhary: i agree with donny......feel sad for the guard

Madhulika Singh: Sad and dangerous. This incident should not be ignored.

    Aditya Singh: It will not. He will be declared a man eater in 2-3 days time

Ronojoy Sinha: Sir will he be put down?

    Aditya Singh: No idea but he will be taken out.

Kiran Bhangare: Dicky, thanks for clearing the air of speculations. Rampalji R.I.P. I guess it will be a wait and watch situation for deciding on T24's fate.

Preeti Takle: What will happen to T24 now? Did he consume his earlier victims?

    Aditya Singh: Yes

Nitin Gera: A very sad turn of events... taken over by conflicting emotions for both man and animal...gives a feeling of helplessness.

Ateeb Hussain: Thanks for the update, sincerely hope the monetary compensation and job promised gets delivered in a timely and smooth manner without the aggreived family having to run from pillar to post.

    Aditya Singh: It got delivered last night
   
Mayank Chawla: He is being tracked as a suspected man eater now ?

    Aditya Singh: Yes

    Mayank Chawla: Oops...that's harsh for everyone.
 

Sunando Sen: Thanks for putting all the speculation to rest. Some tigers are just not as tolerant of human presence as others I guess

    Aditya Singh: He is very tolerant of humans but does kill them once in a while - for food

Rini Jangid: Dharmendra Khandal Bhaiya, wat was d feeling like ??? U on ground wid a tiger around..i hv goose bumps alrdy!

    Aditya Singh: I was scared

Shilpa Patel: Oh that sounds thrilling n scary too dada. But its sad if its T 24 killing the guard. Hope things settle down soon with him soon n not been declared a man eater by FD..

    Aditya Singh: He has been declared a man eater. An official formality is left now

Priyvrat Gadhvi: I am reasonably sure after such behaviour and its previous history, T24 might be headed to captivity..tragic but necessary

Bridget Wijnberg Dallas: Condolences to his friends and family. The blessing is that At least he would have died quickly. I hope the tiger isn't shot. It just feels wrong.

Chitra Warrier: Are we talking about a tiger in the wild or some animal in the zoo. While we respect the fact that a life was lost we should remember that we are talking about a tiger that was only protecting it's territory.

    Aditya Singh: How do you know that ? I don't think you were there

Shreeya Athavale: Condolences

Suman Desarker: I was just waiting for Aditya's update and thanks for it.

Sadaf Randerian: Thank you Aditya for giving us all a detailed update. Really appreciate it as it comes from a reliable and learned person as yourself. Prayers for Rampalji and his family. May He RIP. Hoping T24 doesn't meet a fate he doesn't deserve. He's beautiful albeit aggressive.
Hope Dharmendra ji is well.

Aditya Singh: He asked for this fate, in my opinion

    Sadaf Randerian: Excuse my ignorance but what fate are we referring to here?

Mandeep Oberoi: Do keep us posted on developments.. Also status on T24.

Sandeep Singh: This is proving time and again that the patrolling done by forest guards on foot is a dangerous call as they always tend to be agressive on seeing people on foot and feel threatened and this is the result of this. It's in their their genes as the poaching was done by people on foot and not by vehicles. Time and again we are putting the lives of guards at risk by not giving them proper patrolling vehicle . May his soul rest in peace .

    Aditya Singh: Vehicles can cover barely 2-3% of the park. So what patrolling are we talking about if you can cover only 2-3%

Subhradip Sen: Thanks a lot Aditya for the update..please keep us posted..

Suchismita Sahu: Very sad.. Hope poor T24 / Ustaad will not be penalised for it.. It's not his fault though it's an unfortunate incident..

    Aditya Singh: He has to be penalised. he killed humans for food

Abhishek Singh Tanwar: Its all our fault although we know that from last one or two year t24 is just moving around to the main gate or to the common road govt officers must take a decigion now people in delhi or some were els will say its man eating tiger ...

    Aditya Singh: It is a man eating tiger. he is one of the 7 or 8 tigers that move around near the road though he is the only one that kills.

    Abhishek Singh Tanwar: I agree but when we no all things why we not shift them to some other zone . He is very wel capable to surviv any were

    Abhishek Singh Tanwar: I reply you sir . T24 man eating tiger is the biggest attraction for the business of ranthambore national park its the major reason .

    Abhishek Singh Tanwar: Thats why he is not going to shift any were.   

Arvind Ramamurthy: Man!!! That is one tiger to be scared of!

Abhishek Singh Tanwar: Befor 2 monts only t24 come out from the serious ill ness . Now he is targeting the easy task its very simple i respect rampal ji . Bagwan un ke aatma ko shanti de but plz dont blame to ustaad t24

Abhishek Singh Tanwar: Adity sir you should say some thing


Aditya Singh: I strongly believe that he should be shot or taken out of the wild forever. Believe me you would feel the same if you were there.

    Abhishek Singh Tanwar: Sorry sir but you are connected with wild life and even you think he should be shot
   
Sundar Sarma: Peace to the departed soul! And more power to you Aditya for taking it upon yourself to keep us always with the actual developments at Ranthambhore.

Gaurav Chawla: Thanks for the info sir

Amit Khandelwal: Don't want to see T-24 in captivity Or declare as Maneater....even tiger identify is still not confirmed... some of the local/national newspaper says it was T-72...i don't care whosoever the Tiger was, he just didn't like the presence of human in his territory... RIP Rampal Saini

    Aditya Singh: If he does not like the presence of humans then why does he eat them ? I would love to hear your views if one of your relatives was the one eaten.

    Amit Khandelwal: Aditya frankly telling you whenever i visit any of the tiger reserve, i know i'm visiting at my own risk...i cannot blame any wild animal for any mishap if it's happens with me or any of my group members...i'm aware about the bond which one's supposed to signed while obtaining the permit/entering the park? I'm aware that insurance companies do not pay claims for such accidents if happens inside the park (even cattle compensation rule also state this in BTR, don't know what rule is followed in RTR)....so it's a identified risk which is willingly chosen by our self so why to blame the tiger? I'v seen the partial eaten bodies (in pics) of 3 peoples killed by T-24 in the past but cannot comment on the part why those bodies were partially eaten by the Tiger (only expert can give their views)...but what i understood is he didn't become a man eater and was dependent on his natural prey only (3 kills in 5 years).  

Roshan Panjwani: I am nowhere close to being an expert on the topic - however, is relocating the tiger to a forest that is not open to tourism, an option?

    Ram Mohan: Relocation should be avoided, it would only increase the competition wid d pre-existing populations in the new area....Mr. Roshan neither am I an expert....just putting forward my views regarding it.
   
Sonia Sehgal: Best would be if the tiger is kept in captivity.....he would be kept alive. No such horrible incidents should occur. Its such a sad incident in Ranthambhore national park history. RIP Rampalji.

Abhishek Singh Tanwar: Aditya sir you were their after 20 min ustaad killed who knows that he kill just to eat them not to protect him self . I m sorry but rampal ji family member was died becz of the bite of a cobra if i m not wrong so what it means that snake wann eat them 2 or to protect.

Bhargava Srivari: I can imagine (at least I think so) what you're feelings are after someone you are closely connected to was killed by the tiger, but I'm not sure I quite understand the reasoning for killing the tiger as fair. May be I'm missing something because I was no where near the scene but I sincerely hope you all are right in your reasoning and and are not acting in the grief of losing the guard. Once the tiger goes, unfortunately its gone forever.
Don't misunderstand me as I have immense respect for you and believe that spending close to 20 years in the park would have surely given you enough wisdom to understand situations as they are; I'm only trying to get my own understanding right.

Amit Khandelwal: Better to kill the tiger rather keeping him in captivity

Geoffrey C. Ward: Surely, Tigers known to have killed humans with the intention of eating them should be eliminated. Anything else is foolish sentimentality -- and terrible for tiger survival in the long run

Vivienne Chauhan: Aditya, thank you for your true reporting of this incident, and all I can say is I sincerely hope that you, yours and all the people I know in Ranthambhore will be extraordinarily careful and please stay safe.  I know you would not say in a lighthearted manner that a tiger should be removed, and if someone of your on the ground knowledge says this should happen, then I, for one, believe you. Again, please all of you stay safe.

Ganesh Prakasam: Worrying times indeed, hope Rampal family gain courage to overcome this sad phase

Jeanette Leinweber: I’ve never read any such manipulative horrid and utter nonsense like this “report”. What a disgusting mindset!!!! Do you really believe Ustad sniffing the place does entitle you to assume he killed the man? And now you think you have to require to remove the animal? Who do you think who you are?! A f’n photographer who has nothing better in minds than bothering these cats for some personal gain and who thinks he knows it all??? Get your greedy nasty arse out of the woods there and stop annoying the wildlife!!!!!! You and your cadets here know much better that there is no prove that T-24 has killed this and or any of the other persons earlier! Just because the killings happened in his territory or him appearing on the scene not being amused of a screaming bunch of guys is not evidence enough!!! Shame on you!

Wild Fact: That's really very sad incident. We respect Aditya Sir. It doesn't matter who kill him.
According to me, Why ustaad has been taken so lightly if he has already killed 3 men in past. The decision should have been taken when he killed his 1st or 2nd victim.
As you mentioned he has past his prime and he has record of eating man in his past so precaution must have been taken so far.
Killing such a famous tiger is not solution.
I am sure this will divide the widlife community in 2 part.
Sir, we know you have better understanding about these animals and your feeling for Mr. Rampal, But I think there are much better solutions.
Since we all are wildlife lovers , How we can support bullet for a tiger ?

Avijit Sarkhel: To all those who feel very angry and feel killing this tiger is a must- please check or go to Sunderbans. This is a routine there. And people or forest department do not ask for the blood of every tiger that kills a man. Tigers are predators and they will 'kill'. That is why we love them. In fact we pay to watch a 'kill'. But when the prey is a human being it is VERY SAD'. It should not happen, it is a violation or aberration except in high man-animal conflict areas like Sunderbans. So all kind of methods need to be sorted to before even considering the ultimate step. This may involve radio collaring this tiger and keeping a team monitor its movements, certainly tranquillising it checking for injuries that are not obvious and ensuring that staff and villagers know it very well (creating good facial posters) can be some steps but killing it will be dangerous as it will set an example and later more animals will be killed at any opportunity in the name of conflict.  Reply