Persian Leopard (Panthera pardus saxicolor)

[LonePredator]

(04-30-2022, 01:25 AM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(04-29-2022, 11:13 PM)LonePredator Wrote: I am reading it now. However, I did NOT say that Leopards over 100kg don’t exist. I’m certain that Leopards over 100kg definitely do exist. I also did NOT say that this Leopard was not 105kg.

BUT what I am saying is that if that Leopard was 230cm in total length (straight line) as @LoveAnimals said THEN the only possible way for that Leopard to reach 105kg is if it was at least around 165cm in head-body length and then it would be around 95-100kg without stomach content.

BUT if the head body length of that Leopard is less than 164cm, then by looking at it’s bulkiness, I can say that this 105kg weight is extremely unlikely unless there was10-15kg of stomach content which seems unlikely. THIS is what I am actually saying.

Read my post again, I NEVER said that the book mentioned that leopards of 100 kg did not existed. I clearly wrote that if you want to continue with the debate, the book had a few hunting records from Sri Lanka with big specimens, that is all.

From my part, I doubt that any leopard over 100 kg "empty" could exist, the sample of old and modern records is as big as the one of tigers and lions and the heaviest reliably recorded is of 96 kg, apparently "empty" but the text do not mention any detail (Brain, 1981). However, if we accept the posibility, and based in the data available, I think that c.100 kg will be really exceptional for leopards and pumas (up to 105 kg (Hornocker & Negri, 2010), and only normally achieved by jaguars (biggest populations), lions and tigers.

And I am NOT doubting your words because you know more about the records of Leopards and their weights and measurements than I do.

But I was saying that my whole estimate of that weight was based on that 230cm length and later it turned out that it was over the curves and then once again it changed and this time it turned out that the length itself was fake.

So obviously when I made my estimations based on false information then that will obviously be wrong. That is what I am saying. Reply