Persian Leopard (Panthera pardus saxicolor)

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(02-11-2022, 07:56 PM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(02-11-2022, 04:04 AM)GuateGojira Wrote: Also, jaguars are normally bigger than leopards, but from the list of skull of jaguars that I have (a very small one), there is no male with a CBL of that size.

I want to make a correction. I was checking old documents in a USB that I had and I found a two documents with skulls from jaguars and there are several that had the CBL over 260 mm. So yes, there are jaguar males with skulls as large as an average lioness and tigress.

Unfortunately CBL doesn't equate to TL always. 

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You'll notice the Leopard from Egypt and Sudan both have CBL longer than the largest verified scoring Leopard on the list while both have a shorter total length. You can also see the one from Upper Uele and Faradje, Congo have a CBL that is only 1mm less than largest verified skull yet one is shorter in length and the other is actually longer in total length. This is a total of 4/7 skulls, not including the broken one that show inconstancy when basing total length off of CBL length. 

In regards to Jaguars skulls, I'm not sure which you're comparing to but unfortunately Almeida doesn't present CBL, only width and lenght.
Generally speaking a large Jaguar is going to have a skull that is in the high 11''+  long and high 7'' + wide. 
Scores of 20''+ for Jaguars are considered upper tier but not uncommon and even 21''+ skulls have been registered. 

The mean CBL score for the Pantanal was 252.32 for 72 males and Hoogestejin Referenced Almeida *unpublished* for Pantanal skulls but my guess is that since Almeida didn't provide CBL, I doubt he's going to be able to measure all of his skulls that he mentions since the hunters he took out would most likely keep their skulls as trophies. So who knows what skulls he's provided CBL measurements too as well as Quigley, Crawshaw, Pocock and Allen's skull measurements too. 

In regards to Lioness v Pantanal Jaguar skulls, from this study 

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The average Lioness scores 19.6" which a little smaller than most Monster Jag Skull sizes.
That being said, I know very little about this study *age, location, captive/wild, weight, etc*
My guess would be that Lioness would probably have a slightly higher scoring skull than Monster Jaguars more often than not which makes sense since they'll be averaging 130kg while Pantanal Jaguar will average 107kg. But lb for lb, the Pantanal Jaguar skull is going to get you more bang for your buck. *Larger skull on a smaller body* Reply