Persian Leopard (Panthera pardus saxicolor)

[AndresVida]

(02-09-2022, 11:27 PM)Pckts Wrote: Keep your childish insults to yourself. Instead of getting defensive and attacking, try having a discussion. 

Back to your claim, once again showing a single shot of a Leopard still 100s of meters away from the camera man compared to a confirmed 88kg dead leopard carcass on the floor with humans to scale proves what exactly?
The fact that you can't see the absurdity in that is sad.

And please spare the drama, looking for a discussion is always what I do and what I get but as I said I hate contradictions. As long as they are opinions and are used as opinions (and not sheer facts) as I did, stressing several times that it was just my claim, that's fine. We all agree, don't we?

I respect your opinion 100% because tolerance is the basic key of any debate, but as I have already told you it is not about defense or attacks, it is about recalling the contradiction.

As long as you tell me that for you in your opinion they are not impressive specimens well, I disagree but it is your opinion and I respect it 100%. Anyone who has been in a debate with me knows I do respect opinions if they are treated as opinions and not as facts (reason why I always hate when people don't notice when I write "in my opinion") 

But in the moment you tell me that for you they are not exceptional leopards by using as method a comparison to a specimen that has never been weighed but only estimated to be at least 70 kg (but you have modified the message by saying "around 70 kg", which is not the same as "at least"  since they are two totally different meanings because  "around 70 kg"  means "about 70 kg or maybe a bit less"  while  "at least" means that 70 kg is the minimum weight  that can be estimated for the leopard)
but then come and criticize me for comparing him to another male (unlike yours, mine was weighed at 88 kg, not estimated, but officially weighed), you can't expect me to not call you out for this don't you?
 
So not only you compare a male who has never been weighed in his life, but do you even change the meaning of the sentence in the report?
Now if my claim is inaccurate (never said it was reliable, for the 100th time it's just my estimate) how's yours? Nothing more reliable than mine. 
Also the fact that the leopard was filmed from a very far distance it doesn't alter the quality of the footage. You can clearly see how heavily built he is, with a compact downward build and a fairly deep torso and head that gives a pinhead effect in comparison to body size. Some even mistook it to be a pregnant female when I posted this on imgur. Do you think an average sized leopard would have such built? 
Of course I can't estimate reliably his body mass, but again that still looks too impressively built to just be an average sized male. 

I respect your take, but you should also consider mine. We are good aren't we? Reply