Prides of the Masai Mara

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(12-13-2023, 08:56 PM)Mabande Wrote: As you said the original Sankai lionesses are L and O daughters so when we're they born?

I don't know that exactly but sometime in the first half of the 2010's. 

(12-13-2023, 08:56 PM)Mabande Wrote: Are they the previous litter to the one in which the Bila Shaka and Hammerkop lionesses were born?

The current Hammerkop pride which we're talking about - also known as Moniko-Hammerkop or Sankai Breakaway - are the breakaways of the original Sankai pride and not of the original Moniko pride directly. In the mid 2010's the Sankai pride was taken over by the 2 Croton Island Males Olerai&Oleikiti and their daughters are these current breakaway lionesses, because when Frank2 & Jesse2 & their 3rd brother took over Sankai pride they were hiding and broke away from them and then established themselves as a new group around 2019.

(12-13-2023, 08:56 PM)Mabande Wrote: do you know anything about Porini pride?

I haven't heard much about them lately since Frank2 and Jesse2's death and after 2 of the Black Rock Boys Olobor&Oloshipa chased them for a long time along with the Fig Tree Pride (killed some of their cubs) probably none of the Porini cubs has survived.

(12-13-2023, 08:56 PM)Mabande Wrote: Are they also L and O daughters?

At this point we can talk about two different Porini groups as far as i know: there were the original/core Porini lionesses whose origin is an obscure to me, and there is/was the Porini Breakaway group by 2 lionesses who were/are the daughters of Maridadi&Kaka. 

(12-13-2023, 08:56 PM)Mabande Wrote: it seems around 60% of the Masai lions are direct descendants of at least one of these 7 legends: Notch, Lolparpit, Olbarnoti, Lipstick, Blackie, Olerai and Olekiti

Could be possible, but it seems a bit high percentage to me.

Furthermore don't forget about Lolparpit&Olbarnoti's 3 possibly half-brothers Cheza,Sala&Junior from the original Ridge pride who were fathers of the 4 Musketeers. The original fathers of these 5 were the 2 Old Ridge Pride Males from early of the 2000's so they could hold a very high % of current Mara bloodlines. 

Finally the legendary 4'km lineage by Blackie&Lipstick and their 2 brothers also had played a very significant role in Mara's lion population, but just keep thinking how their gorgeus father(s)' role might have had in the Triangle in the 2000's (if u search back in the Other Mara's male coalitions topic u can find my post of him). Reply