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12-13-2023, 04:30 AM( This post was last modified: 12-13-2023, 04:45 PM by Lipstick2 )
Well yes, the original Moniko Pride was extinct by 2018/19 at the latest if i'm remember correctly. All 4 original old Moniko females - Nk'asiogi, Timanoi, Zurura and Olonyori - disappeared by then.
Here are pictures of them by Mara Predator Conservation Programme:
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They were so old ladies (born around 2004) that were even the mating partners to the 2 old original Moniko pride males known as Mzee&Lolalai (before Lolparpit&Olbarnoti). They've sired together for example the 5 original Iseketa females as their daughters and the former Kichwa males were known as Short-tail and Fang as their sons before 2010.
Then L&O took over the pride from the 2 old males around 2010 and after that were the dominant males for many successful years. During the time they produced so many descendants including such famous coalitions like the 6 Bilashaka males from 2014. (i can see Koshoke in Olonyuri's face btw.)
So yes, the original Sankai females also were the daughters of L&O. For why they broke off from their core/main pride it is a good question but most likely there were some holding and dominating problems around the pride - after L&O had got more pressure from the rival males and they've started to leave the pride so the youngsters also start to hang off probably or were chased by the new males in advance.
Anyway, this is why the Original Moniko Pride has extinct not long after that, while the young females has formed a new pride.
There is also a Moniko-Hammerkop pride which is often also referred as Sankai Breakaway pride.
The Hammerkop pride is ruled by the 4 Lemek males currently (sons of Derre&Barrikoi) while the Sankai pride was ruled by the former 3 - then 2, then now 1 - Sankai pride males right up until now - However this last remaining Sankai pride male - after his brother was killed by the Sala's some months ago - was chased out by the 2 Fig Tree Boys Nyekundo&Osupaat, so most of the Sankai lionesses are hanging out with them recently as it was seen.