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(05-22-2021, 03:42 AM)Balam Wrote: SOUTHERN PANTANAL

Male registered at Fazenda Barranco Alto last March, unknown name to me.

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From 2013 the massive male Macho A, certainly one of the largest from this area during that time

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@Dark Jaguar who do you think was bigger between Macho A and Colombiano? It's very hard to tell but I think Macho A was stockier, would've loved for them to have been captured. Leaving aside Manco whose actual reliable weight remains debatable, Sossego could possibly hold the title of the largest jaguar from this ranch but he was barely in his prime when captured and I think Colombiano and Macho A were likely larger, being possibly older based on footage from them as well.

@Balam

The male jaguar you posted from the camera trap at Fazenda Barranco Alto is M&M (Matheus Manco).

And now he is around 7 y.o (based on his first capture at 4 y.o in 2018).

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Macho A was a jaguar that I many times looked for infos but with not much luck, he was indeed big and I wanted to see more of him but Colombiano IMO had a ''complete package'' mostly cause I think Colombiano's head is larger.

Overall dimensions body wise it probably seems close but its hard to tell as Macho A footage are more scarce than Colombiano's. But IMO Colombiano takes it for me specially regarding head/jaws/cheek dimension/proportions related to the rest of the body that makes him look rather cartoonish.

One thing that surprises me and I personally find impressive the most on jaguars is not even sheer sizes but their head sizes to body relation (cartoonish lookings).

Specimens with massive cartoonish heads that looks like that their heads were taken from a larger scaled puppet cat and put on a stocky body makes their heads scream dimensions. Specimens with this feature way more clearly visible looks much more impressive to me than ''just'' a large body frame and from what we've got Colombiano takes this for me. And I think Colombiano even appeared to be a bit of a tall jaguar but its just me.

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Sossego was captured at 5 years old in 2015. He was an impressive looking male but I'd still give the edge to Colombiano, that dude just screamed Large proportions, even when he was empty.

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I still wanna see more of Macho A though, he looks thick and maybe they're both on pair on this aspect but I am not sure if Colombiano was less stocky than Macho A, Colombiano was also very muscular as you can see bellow with very visible muscle definition that looks like it was drew by Da Vinci.

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Note above his head rather big compared to the rest of his body (which isn't small) as he is laying down and then as he gets up to walk away you see not only his muscles definitions but also Colombiano's head which by him getting the distance the head still looks huge related to his muscular body even though his head is the furthest away part of his body from the camera angle that continues getting further, further and further away (yet cartoonish looking). Jaguars as species got this feature but some specimen got it on an way that blows my mind, I can only imagine the head circumference measure of these freak beasts.

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And of course a nice comparison to have an indication of Colombiano's size was that fight in 2017 against Mancha-Preta male (who was captured and weighed 101 kg) compared to Colombiano side by side you can see a good comparison between a normal sized Pantanal male to a large sized Pantanal male (Note their Head/Chest/Body proportions comparisons). And Due to their sheer sizes difference there's not even the need to tell who is who.

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Thats my opinion but we never know who was really larger but Colombiano was acknowledged to be a massive beast from Onças do Rio Negro even before I knew him, they described him to be probably the closest jaguar to 150 kg they've ever seen and the Onçafari biologist acknowledged him to be huge as well.

As you said the Bad thing is they'll never be captured but I think in the past there were chances of Colombiano being captured by that project at around over 6 years ago but I assume Colombiano just didn't fall on the snaretrap, but if he did... the Onças do Rio Negro team would definitely had needed a larger weighing machine scale.

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