BODY LANGUAGE AS A TOOL TO COMMUNICATE

[Rishi]

(04-25-2020, 02:11 AM)Amnon242 Wrote: "The tiger lowers its head and sticks to the ground which is typical submissive behavior. " No, submission is different, much different. See that picture with body postures above. When tiger flattens body to the ground, he is on alert, awaiting an attack. Which makes sense in context of the situation. And when he finally lies on the ground (in 1:02), his message is "leave me alone". But the lion did not respect that, so the tiger chased him away...so what submission? 

In case of this duo the tiger is much larger & stronger, so his confidence shows... but that lion always initiates (or initiated, i heard they finally separated them). My guess is he tries too hard to look dominant.
But while the head bowing for tigers is definitely a defensive posture, offering cease-hostility or warning to back off, the crouching is definitely submissive... in both species. Especially because females & juveniles do that when challenged by males.

Otherwise what do you consider to tigers' posturing of submission?.. Do present an example.

(04-25-2020, 02:04 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: The tiger lowers its head and sticks to the ground which is typical submissive behavior. I didn't see the lion as nervous but rather frustrated and stressed which then translated to aggression.

Unlike lions, it seems to me that submissive behavior in tigers is quite aggressive, constantly lashing out to ward off the dominant one posturing before it. In these kind of faceoffs I've noted that the dominant tiger doesn't intend to start a bout either, turning sideways and circling around, then disengaging.
Maybe they're wired that way in order to avoid unnecessary injuries, that may prove life-threatening for solitary predators.

Quite pointless endeavour IMO. People are going to to interpret whatever they want in whatever ways suit their stand. And neutral objective analysis, is even harder to do for interspecies interactions with different social dynamics.
Anyways guys, try not to make this thread look like YouTube comment section or a shitposting forum. Reply