Big cat and Bear tale

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(11-08-2018, 07:32 PM)Scorpion Wrote: @brotherbear  and @Shadow 
This is "Genghis" on another account. First off, I'd like to say that I agree with "Shadow" that this is old news debated over and over again. However, you two are missing one point here. This is not about who will win more often in a hypothetical fight between a male tiger vs a male brown bear, its about overall, which beast dominates and rules the Ussuri taiga.

Ussuri brown bears are preyed upon by tigers, not the other way around. Bears generally have an innate fear of tigers, whereas tigers generally fear nothing in the forest.

Also, renowned Amur tiger biologist, Linda Kerley stated in her email; that tigers do hunt and kill LARGER Brown bears and also prey on the largest and healthiest of adult sow Brown bears. The largest sow Ussuri brown bears can reach well over 230kgs. This was based off just her 14 years experience of studying tiger food habits in the Russian Far-East.

An example:

In 45 cases of head-on collisions between tigers and brown bears, 51% of collisions ended with a dead bear, and only 26% of collisions ended with a dead tiger:

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I found another account, which has never been posted by anyone ever before on any forum! Its an account of a tiger that challenged a large brown bear for his wild boar kill, and killed the bear after a fierce fight:

"We heard one story about how a "large brown bear" having taken on a wild boar and covered it with scat and brushwood to make some "stewed boar, bear style," suddenly got paid a visit by a hungry tiger. Oh how much blood got shed! The owner of the kill died from terrible wounds and the disfigured tiger, moving off like a drunk, didn't even bother with the fresh spoils of the kill." (Page 23)

http://www.wf.ru/tiger/book/The%20Amur%20Tiger.pdf
The bear was described as "large" in size, so I'm assuming it was a large male brown bear. Since large brown bears are usually referred to males.

Here's a video in Russian, I found on youtube. From Russian biologist; Timofei Bazhenov, who states: " I am often asked, if a tiger meets the brown bear in the taiga, who will win then? As a rule, the tiger wins but it occurs a brown bear may win if it is big."

Wildlife naturalist and explorer, Paul Rosolien;

"They were the ruling terrestrial predator of our planet. They are the genetic pinnacle of millions of years of evolution - the ultimate predator. From the steaming jungles of Sumatra to the snowy wilderness of the Russian far east, they are the apex predator - the latter of this species, the Amur tiger, even dominates the brown bears and wolves that share their range."
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ykiGAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA164&lpg=PA164&dq=tiger+predation+on+brown+bear+new+accounts&source

I can show more sources, but I don't wanna make the post too long. My point being is that, even though the Ussuri brown bear is a large and powerful animal, it is still regularly hunted, killed and eaten by tigers. The tiger is the ruling apex predator of the Ussuri taiga, and locals, biologists and natives regard them as so.

So another one here with all that old information and same reasoning heard so many times. Well, can´t blame you guys for lack of determination at least :) I have nothing more to say to you, have a nice day there! Reply