Big cat and Bear tale

[GreenGrolar]

(11-09-2022, 08:32 PM)Apex Titan Wrote: Remains of a fully-grown, large adult male black bear that was killed and eaten by a tiger (2021):

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Nice pictures, I have no doubt that black bears of both get preyed upon. Unable to post on edge of extinction so I will respond to the latest account here. The account you posted of Odyr killing a male brown bear is impressive. Male Ussuri brown bears being killed (two modern day accounts) is still rare (probably as rare as the tigress killing a shantun bear in one of the hunting accounts) in comparison to Siberian tigers killing female Ussuri brown bears (as well as some 200kg bears of unspecified gander). Adding a bit of my opinion, since I believe the male Ussuri wins 7/10 at average weights - higher than that if the weight difference increase (but not 10/10), I am not surprise that the tiger is able to win at times. Still there are no confirm accounts on tigers preying on the smaller male Ussuri brown bears, some which can be 400 pounds.

The same account also says that the tiger confidently defeats Himalayan bears up to the age of three which is surprising as Linda Kerley says even adult male Himalayan bears fall prey to tigers, something I agree with.

I have also seen the accounts saying that male bears chase away cubs from their mothers and the cubs took advantage of the situation. Alexander Batolov said tigers avoid male Ussuri brown bears during mating season yet Chamlid was killed by the bespectacled tiger. 

Hope we see more accounts and interactions in the future :).

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From this chart, both a 211kg and 270 kg male Ussuri brown bear has a 16cm and 16.5 cm palm width respectively while a 600kg male Ussuri brown bear has an 18 cm palm width. Not much difference in palm width.

The average palm width of an Ussuri brown bear and Siberian tiger is surprisingly not much different.

I wonder why the bear did not hibernate early. Shatun bears do not hibernate but that bear was going to hibernate (so it could not be a shatun). Either this bear was below par in weight and hibernated late or there is an abundance of food?

Lately two different emails have showed up. One says the bear is only three years old:
Q：Здравствуйте, я недавно слышал, что в заповеднике была битва тигра с медведем У вас есть больше информации об этом медведе?

Reserve：Здравствуйте!Медведя звали Миша, кличка «Косолапый», возраст примерно 3 года Подвид бурый. В ходе сражения тигр не пострадал. Начальник отдела охраны Милежик М.П.
С Уважением,
филиал Большехехцирский ФГ БУ"Заповедное Приамурье'

Translation: Q：Hello, I heard recently that there was a tiger-bear fight in the reserve Do you have any more information about this bear?

Reserve： Hello, the bear's name was Misha, and he was about 3 years old. The tiger wasn't hurt in the battle.

M.P. Milezhik, Head of Protection Department.
Sincerely yours,
Bolshekhetsirskiy branch of the Federal Wildlife Refuge of the Priamur'e Nature Conservation Area.

https://ibb.co/VJrpVm4

The other (already posted in the edge of extinction thread) says the 18 palm width is confirmed.  Reply