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(06-30-2014, 11:44 PM)'tigerluver' Wrote:

(06-30-2014, 10:24 PM)'Pckts' Wrote:

(06-30-2014, 08:26 AM)'Roflcopters' Wrote: Panna was nowhere near notorious for Large Tigers prior to the Conservation efforts of Dr.Raghu Chundawat. Infact it was one of the mellow Tiger Reserves that people hardly visited and by the time Brokentooth and Madla were weighed, they were plenty of large males from different parts of Central India.. now we're talking 2000-2004 time frame and males like Sultan (Tadoba) B2 (Bandhavgarh) Bokha (Bandhavgarh) Jabbar (Tadoba) Konda (Kanha) Laxmi's male (Kanha) were all still alive and kicking.. each and every single one of them stood out from their respective habitats.. I have talked to a countless people from the time i started with my tiger business and from all the research.. I've found that Madla and Hairyfoot's potential stopped at prime Bamera.. Wagdoh and the new offset of males like Jay, Katezari, Shivaji & Jobhi etc might be on the same league as Hairyfoot/Madla guys but Wagdoh is clearly the god father among them all. 

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Prime Bamera is said to be between the 220-230kg range, two eye witnesses of him said the same thing here, so madla and hairyfoot where a considerable amount larger than Bamera.
But every single person who sees Waghdoh says he is the largest tiger they have ever seen outside of Kaziranga.
So Waghdoh could definitely be larger than Madla/hairyfoot

 

 

Another organization (tiger awareness from UK) had B2, his smaller father, estimated at 300 kg (overestimate to me). 220-230 kg sounds like an underestimate to me at the same time. Rofl seems to know the most eye witnesses, we should get his take on it.

 

It is said that B2 was smaller than B3 for sure, and B3 was the most dominate, and B1 took over chargers territory and defeated the aging king, so he may have well been more dominate than B2 as well. All three where big but B3 was the king. Check out the pick of B3 asserting his dominance over B2 in the Tiger directory.


Read the thread on Wild cat expierence,

We have two very informed members here who are both eye witnesses of Bamera and one has seen waghdoh in person.
Both specifically stated Bamera as being around the 220kg range and not the 300kg claims that they heard before seeing him.

Both Pantherinae and Jubatus say

"I was a little disapointed with the size of bamera who was said to be a "300" kg tiger, but how would you compare them up against eachother? My dad says wagdoh was a massive tiger!"

 
"I was also a little dissapointed by Bamera`s size, but Wagdoh is big , Bamera is not even comparable! Your dad`s description of 240-260 kg seems to fit him just about right, its my estimates aswell! "


And here Pantherinae tells about the largest lions and tigers he has seen and how they comapred

"Notch's biggest son was no way near the size of the koning male, a big very unkown male I saw in Krüger. I have seen two big tigers T-24 and bamera, bamera was very bulky but not very long I had expected more of him, but still a massive beast, but not 300 kg which is a faritale weight for any wild cat. T-24 was longer I would have put those in around the same weight catagory. So in my case the lion was a little bigger. The notch boys where again a little smaller than the two tigers. 

My dad however has seen wagdoh. And he said he was bigger than the koning male lion. Atleast he would have weighed more. He always has described him as massive! I hope aswell to see wagdoh soon! 
and lastly here are his estimates for all...
"Well it's sad that we can only estimate the weight of Madla, but sure a massive tiger! My dad has seen alot of tigers and lions, and he said following weights on animals in his estimates, all notch boys where between 185-210 kg, B2: 210-220 kg (he said he was massive, but extremly short), T-24: 220-235, bamera: 225-240 kg, koning male 230-245 kg, and he said wagdoh where maybe 240-260 kg. 

KZT-023 is a massive beast, but he is a little, fat! He is looking like a very big framed tiger, but his hips do look a little thin. I have seen even more impressive tigers from Kaziranga ( but that's on camera traps, and thats a little hard to estimate size from)! They are definatly the biggest cats alive, but still 300 seem a little to much IMO, but who knows if they exists that's probably in Kaziranga. "


Pantherinae also works with 255kg lion, Aslan and the siberians there as well.

http://wildfact.com/forum/topic-experien...-wild-cats


Check out the first couple of pages, it is a very cool topic with interesting info.  Reply