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Lions of Manyeleti
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From these recent videos the Orpen son looked quite taller than Mandevu and possibly overall bigger, wiith a longer and more muscular body ( we need better footage of them side by side tho ).
His father around the same age was also very large, almost as big as the Ginger Matimba. But maybe that doesn't mean the Orpen son will be a monster in his prime, maybe he just grew a lot earlier on, as I don't think Jr NK grew much more either. Jr was also probably a bit shorter than Buddy so he wasn't exactly very tall, but he was bulkier than Buddy so I wonder how the Orpen son will look if he lives long enough to reach his prime. As for Mandevu, he might still be trying to be territorial but the Mongawane will be maybe taking even the Mbiri pride territory, having probably ousted Mandevu from Kruger a while ago. If they potentially beat Mandevu/Ncila, Mandevu alone, with maybe a little help from Orpen son and pride won't stand a chance. A shame the Mbiri young male is still too young to go nomadic, otherwise, ideally, the Orpen son and him would go nomadic together with Mandevu. All 3 together could be a strong and successful coalition one day. Orpen son will turn 4 in a few months so even him is still very young, but who knows, Matimba blood runs thick on his veins as both his parents were Matimba offspring, so he may get ready sooner than the average male and potentially become an actual reliable future partner for Mandevu.
And I almost forgot but the Mbiri males and Birmingham pride does show up from time to time in Northern Manyeleti.
If Mongawanes stick around, with whatever 2 females those were, they might bump into Mbiri males one day. Dunno how that'd play out, Mbiris are not always in top shape and will be 11yo very soon, while Monwaganes are in the peak of their prime, looking very impressive and possibly being the ones to have killed Ncila. I just want to see the bulk of this Birmingham generation reaching adulthood, leaving the Mbiris with the immense legacy they deserve, as well for the Mbiri pride to finally get stability. 
Three or four Imbali females is sighted with 1 Mantimahle Sons and the other brother joined later at Djuma, seems like they are shifting their territorry and pushing more south of Manyeleti and exploring the void that the Talamati Pride left. Dark Mane Mantimahle did mate with one Imbali lioness.
I put 3/4 imbali lioness because they are sighted to be four in the dam cam with the dark mane mantimahle sons.  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author Credits and Informations from WildEarth - November 1, 2024 - AM  (11-01-2024, 11:22 AM)sunless Wrote: Three or four Imbali females is sighted with 1 Mantimahle Sons and the other brother joined later at Djuma, seems like they are shifting their territorry and pushing more south of Manyeleti and exploring the void that the Talamati Pride left. Dark Mane Mantimahle did mate with one Imbali lioness. Great news for the K4 if it means they focus on Imbali females instead of Nkuhumas.  (11-01-2024, 11:22 AM)sunless Wrote: Three or four Imbali females is sighted with 1 Mantimahle Sons and the other brother joined later at Djuma, seems like they are shifting their territorry and pushing more south of Manyeleti and exploring the void that the Talamati Pride left. (11-01-2024, 02:38 PM)KM600 Wrote: Great news for the K4 if it means they focus on Imbali females instead of Nkuhumas.Kambulas were going for a takeover with the Imbalis, we speculated that the Mantimahle were more than ever in Manyeleti going after Kambula males and Imbali pride... Not sure if that proves it but it surely proves something: so far the Kambula didnt make an effort the keep the pride that everyone thought was already going under their control. Yeah hopefully Mantimahle focus on Imbali because if they go for Nkuhuma im not sure if Kambulas will defend it (even thought i hope they will somewhat).
Ncila was prolly my favourite lion in Manyeleti, him and RRM up there anyways. A shame he seems to have died, but I can’t think of a better replacement than the Monwaganes, in terms of Skorro Pride as a whole, and whatever they might be trying to accomplish in Manyeleti. They are by far the most impressive duo in terms of their bloodline with the Avoca / Giraffe / Birmingham genes on their fathers side. Torchwood male might also have Matimba genes on his mother’s side, but I’m not sure, anyways very impressive.
Wasn’t surprised to hear they had won over the Skorro Pride, Mandevu and Ncila are very impressive males but lacked a lot of experience despite being pride males. They struggled with RRM whenever they didn’t face him together, albeit no small challenge, RRM is a beast, and they clearly were on the losing end against the Mbiris.  (11-01-2024, 04:44 PM)KM600 Wrote: Ncila was prolly my favourite lion in Manyeleti, him and RRM up there anyways. A shame he seems to have died, but I can’t think of a better replacement than the Monwaganes, in terms of Skorro Pride as a whole, and whatever they might be trying to accomplish in Manyeleti. They are by far the most impressive duo in terms of their bloodline with the Avoca / Giraffe / Birmingham genes on their fathers side. Torchwood male might also have Matimba genes on his mother’s side, but I’m not sure, anyways very impressive. Same, I think he was a lot of people's favourites. We tend to like the underdog/broken one that makes a comeback. The crippled hero that goes through a struggle and rises again is a classic part of the monomyth/hero's journey. It's so ingrained in our psychology to want them to succeed, when we see that playing out with a real life animal in the wild, we can't help but root for them. But this is real life, the wild, and they don't always win in the end. But his and Mandevu's bond probably wasn't as strong as it had once been, with the way Mandevu turned against him after the snare incident. So it might have been that the Monwagane males were bigger, more experienced AND had the better bond. 
Photos of two cubs, tagged location of Pungwe Safari Camp. Posted few weeks ago.
...this could be a Nharu lioness; Red Road was sighted mating with a Nharu lioness at the end of May, in a Tintswalo video (posted June 5). So in terms of pregnancy days etc this aligns pretty well. Let's see in the coming weeks if we get more info. (11-01-2024, 04:44 PM)KM600 Wrote: Ncila was prolly my favourite lion in Manyeleti, him and RRM up there anyways. A shame he seems to have died, but I can’t think of a better replacement than the Monwaganes, in terms of Skorro Pride as a whole, and whatever they might be trying to accomplish in Manyeleti. They are by far the most impressive duo in terms of their bloodline with the Avoca / Giraffe / Birmingham genes on their fathers side. Torchwood male might also have Matimba genes on his mother’s side, but I’m not sure, anyways very impressive. Tintswalo brothers even struggle together with RRM my friend. If I remember correctly, there was a fight between them where RRM got one of his hind legs injured causing him a limp and reappeared about a month later, and caused Mandevu and Ncile not to move from the same spot for 2 or 3 days while recovering from the beating.  (11-02-2024, 05:53 AM)afortich Wrote: Twinswalo brothers even struggle together with RRM my friend. If I remember correctly, there was a fight between them where RRM got one of his hind legs injured causing him a limp and reappeared about a month later, and caused Mandevu and Ncile not to move from the same spot for 2 or 3 days while recovering from the beating. That was when they where quite young in the 2021, they where not even 5 yrs old, before Ncilas snare injury. Also, nobody saw the fight, so its unknown if they fight only RRM or whole Nharu pride like Kambulas, which might be the case as Mandevu had bite marks on his leg, which means prob more lions. Another rumor was that it was 1vs1 between Ncile and RRM and than Mandevu came to rescue. RRM also was quite beaten, he had loong recovery where at some point even Nharus rejected him, but recovered after many months. This was the worst clash RRM participated in his life to this day. And if Ncile didnt suffer snare injury shortly after, its very lilely they would eventually oust RRM if they decided to move in that direction. So I wouldnt say they struggled with RRM, because of 1 clash where they where quite young and inexperienced. Or to judge their strenght 3 yrs after based of that RRM clash. In the end we will never know what happened to Ncile. (11-02-2024, 11:23 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(11-02-2024, 05:53 AM)afortich Wrote: Twinswalo brothers even struggle together with RRM my friend. If I remember correctly, there was a fight between them where RRM got one of his hind legs injured causing him a limp and reappeared about a month later, and caused Mandevu and Ncile not to move from the same spot for 2 or 3 days while recovering from the beating. That's the worst part of it.
One Dead Imbali Female (Possible that it's the Daughter of S8 Male as she is a young lioness) found in Northern Sabi Sands
Injuries:  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author ID of the Dead Imbali Female:  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author TLDR: According to Cedric this female is following a male lion to mate (do not know if it's the Mantimahle or the Kambulas as in the morning drive is hectic as Cedric vehicle broke down but he did hear the fight happen and he said that it's the sound of lion killing lion) but it seems like the Nkuhuma Pride caught her and mauled her, Cedric said there seems no suffocation injury but there are many bite marks in the spine area, back, and hind of the lioness. The blood in the puncture wounds is dry so Cedric concluded that this happened in the morning. Seems like the venture of the Imbali lionesses in Djuma to mate with the Mantimahle Sons did not go well.
Credits and Informations from WildEarth - November 2, 2024 - Sunset (11-02-2024, 07:47 PM)sunless Wrote: One Dead Imbali Female (Possible that it's the Daughter of S8 Male as she is a young lioness) found in Northern Sabi Sands Not long ago another Imbali lioness was killed around southern Manyeleti, possibly by Nharus, idk if she was part of this group of Imbali Breakaways or Imbali core. (11-02-2024, 11:23 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(11-02-2024, 05:53 AM)afortich Wrote: Twinswalo brothers even struggle together with RRM my friend. If I remember correctly, there was a fight between them where RRM got one of his hind legs injured causing him a limp and reappeared about a month later, and caused Mandevu and Ncile not to move from the same spot for 2 or 3 days while recovering from the beating. That's the problem, I'm not judging the strength of Tintswalo, those are not my words. I'm only highlighting the strength, confidence and power of RRM, which has shown not only with Tintswalo despite they were young but lately with the Kambula boys. RRM is a very confident lion and not easy to handle. Moreover, just like you said that none saw the fight, so we don't know if Nharu pride helped him but the fight was due to the fact that RRM was the one encroaching in the tintswalo territory. Now you're suggesting RRM got helped from the Nharus where there was no evidence of that either. Struggle is not Strength. Nhena and NYM struggle to beat Tumbela. |
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