Lions of Timbavati

[BA0701]

(10-23-2024, 02:50 AM)adamstocks16 Wrote: @Ngonya those images you shared of the Birmingham Breakaways does Ilanga have some health problems or just a considerably underdeveloped mane in comparison to his brothers? I’m not 100% clued up on these boys but from my understanding Kovu is the oldest then Ilanga and Madinzyo, then I believe there was three younger males Indlebe, Dzombo and Gulayo. Is this still the case or did something happen to one of the latter two? Remember that Gulayo wasn’t in great condition but I don’t follow them that closely so not sure on their current status.

The updates on those boys have been so sparse, for so long (they were in an area, apparently with little to no human traffic), I was not even aware they all had names. Hopefully this changes soon, and we can read of their exploits more often. Reply

[KM600]

(10-22-2024, 09:49 PM)BA0701 Wrote:

(10-22-2024, 09:04 PM)Mapokser Wrote: And then the 6 Monwanas got into a fight with other lions last night and were apparently split, they have minor injuries and are looking for each other to rejoin:

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Both the Mayambula and Birmingham prides were around but 10 Mayambulas, all females and 2yo subadults wouldn't be a challenge for the Monwanas, so my guess is that they bumped into the Birmingham pride and Mbiri males.

If the Mbiris were involved, and these boys made it out with only minor injuries, they should all go out and buy a lottery ticket right away!

Not only that but it’d be scary to know some of these boys are already able to fight such a powerful duo at their young age, assuming the few injuries wasn’t from them escaping and being caught separately, and that’s ofc if they even come across other dominant males like the Mbiris in the first place.

Speaking on Mbiris, I think next year will be the year they are really tested and might even be forced into Manyeleti or KNP. Too many big coalitions around them, they can only hope these young and upcoming coalitions avoid them, or they scare them enough to send them out the area permanently. Reply

[Ngonya]

(10-23-2024, 02:50 AM)adamstocks16 Wrote: @Ngonya those images you shared of the Birmingham Breakaways does Ilanga have some health problems or just a considerably underdeveloped mane in comparison to his brothers?

I think its a bit of both. 
He seems to be in fine physical condition but his mane did not grow a bit lately, perhaps it'll like its happening with 3 of the Nkuhlu males. 

(10-23-2024, 02:50 AM)adamstocks16 Wrote: Kovu is the oldest then Ilanga and Madinzyo, then I believe there was three younger males Indlebe, Dzombo and Gulayo. Is this still the case or did something happen to one of the latter two? Remember that Gulayo wasn’t in great condition but I don’t follow them that closely so not sure on their current status.

I'm not completely sure but iirc they used to be 7.
One older male in bad condition, who has never got a name and died at an early age.
Then down to the 6 you mention. Unfortunately they are down to 5 and Gulayo isn't really accounted for. Reply

[Potato]

A bit longer version (than that which was shared on this forum) of recent run in between Monwana males and Birmingham Breakaway males:

Also quite intresting part from 0:00 to 0:30. Very hard to tell but isn't it one of the Monwana males dominating BB male with undeveloped mane? Reply

[BA0701]

(10-23-2024, 02:10 PM)KM600 Wrote:

(10-22-2024, 09:49 PM)BA0701 Wrote:

(10-22-2024, 09:04 PM)Mapokser Wrote: And then the 6 Monwanas got into a fight with other lions last night and were apparently split, they have minor injuries and are looking for each other to rejoin:

*This image is copyright of its original author

Both the Mayambula and Birmingham prides were around but 10 Mayambulas, all females and 2yo subadults wouldn't be a challenge for the Monwanas, so my guess is that they bumped into the Birmingham pride and Mbiri males.

If the Mbiris were involved, and these boys made it out with only minor injuries, they should all go out and buy a lottery ticket right away!

Not only that but it’d be scary to know some of these boys are already able to fight such a powerful duo at their young age, assuming the few injuries wasn’t from them escaping and being caught separately, and that’s ofc if they even come across other dominant males like the Mbiris in the first place.

Speaking on Mbiris, I think next year will be the year they are really tested and might even be forced into Manyeleti or KNP. Too many big coalitions around them, they can only hope these young and upcoming coalitions avoid them, or they scare them enough to send them out the area permanently.

The Mbiris have never been known to shy away from conflict, even when confronted by a lager force, but, as you mentioned, they are aging. At some point, that is sure to slow them down. These young Monwana Males have shown spirit since day one, they have been scrappy from the start, and they all remain, so they are surely doing something right. Reply

[Ngonya]

(10-23-2024, 06:17 PM)Potato Wrote: Also quite intresting part from 0:00 to 0:30. Very hard to tell but isn't it one of the Monwana males dominating BB male with undeveloped mane?

Could be one of his brothers but i think it is Ilanga (underdeveloped Birmingham Breakaway).
These Monwana boys are really bold , especially when taking into account their age. Reply

[Mapokser]

So this is the male or one of them who probably chased the Monwana, not a Mbiri male.

Who is this? Given the location I'm a bit clueless but sort of reminds me of the blond Mantimahle which would be crazy:

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[Potato]

(10-23-2024, 08:38 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Who is this?

One of the Black Dam males. It makes perfect sense for them to target Birmingham breakaway pride. It is about same distance from their core lands as Monwana pride is. It would be perfect if they would takeover it. Perhaps they would even produce white cubs there. Reply

[BA0701]

(10-23-2024, 08:57 PM)Potato Wrote:

(10-23-2024, 08:38 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Who is this?

One of the Black Dam males. It makes perfect sense for them to target Birmingham breakaway pride. It is about same distance from their core lands as Monwana pride is. It would be perfect if they would takeover it. Perhaps they would even produce white cubs there.

Is the white gene known to be in the Monwana Pride, or the Giraffe Male? That would be great! We now know the Mbiris have it. Reply

[Potato]

(10-23-2024, 10:33 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Is the white gene known to be in the Monwana Pride, or the Giraffe Male?

Giraffe male was in fact littermate of one of the Giraffe pride white lionesses. Reply

[BA0701]

(10-24-2024, 12:57 AM)Potato Wrote:

(10-23-2024, 10:33 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Is the white gene known to be in the Monwana Pride, or the Giraffe Male?

Giraffe male was in fact littermate of one of the Giraffe pride white lionesses.

Ah, perfect, thank you! There can never be too many white lions. Reply

[Mwk85]

Makeppies Pride (Giraffe young male and Monwana breakaways)

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[Mwk85]

Hate to think it, but Tyson may very well be gone. Sometime back in September is the last time I recall hearing about both of them if memory serves correct.

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