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The Birmingham Males

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Wow I was wondering about him I started to only see 4 in pictures more and more sad sad day for the bboys he will be missed but these young boys still have numbers and will continue to be strong majingilane lost one early so did the selati males so hopefully it don't effect them
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( This post was last modified: 04-25-2016, 01:33 PM by Ngala )

Photo and information credits: Joshua McPhail
"A Lion packed with Character!
Scrapper/Tokolosh of the Birmingham Coalition, Sabi Sands.
Sad to hear about his death, but looking forward to heading back there at the end of this week for another safari with At Close Quarters - Photographic Safaris hoping to see his brothers!"

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it is a little difficult to understand the guys in safariLive,
all those past weeks they were confirming that the 5th Birmingham Boy is fine but a little weaker than usual and suddenly he died and the photos above show that he had some serious illness.

All those patches on his skin could not have happened overnight.
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R.I.P. Scrapper aka Tokolesh frown emoticon
Birmingham Male Lions are 4 now:
"The one known to many as Scrapper or Tokolosh was found dead today on Buffelshoek property. He had been separated from the rest of the coalition for a few days now and was not looking in the best of condition. The exact cause of death is not known."


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- In Memory -
Scrapper in better days...Scrapper & Blondie from the BBoys vs. Selati



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Italy Ngala Offline
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(04-25-2016, 07:27 PM)LionKiss Wrote: it is a little difficult to understand the guys in safariLive,
all those past weeks they were confirming that the 5th Birmingham Boy is fine but a little weaker than usual and suddenly he died and the photos above show that he had some serious illness.

All those patches on his skin could not have happened overnight.

The patches on the body indicate that he didn't die recently but some days ago, the hair on his skin fall, it's a normal process of decomposition, they aren't ante mortem. You can also understand by the eyes that is not died near the time of the discovery.
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(04-25-2016, 09:37 PM)Ngala Wrote:
(04-25-2016, 07:27 PM)LionKiss Wrote: it is a little difficult to understand the guys in safariLive,
all those past weeks they were confirming that the 5th Birmingham Boy is fine but a little weaker than usual and suddenly he died and the photos above show that he had some serious illness.

All those patches on his skin could not have happened overnight.

The patches on the body indicate that he didn't die recently but some days ago, the hair on his skin fall, it's a normal process of decomposition, they aren't ante mortem. You can also understand by the eyes that is not died near the time of the discovery.


according to the decomposition shown in those photos how many days could have passed since he died? As far as I know his death was announced last Sunday April 24th.
and what sign in his eyes indicate that he did not die the day he was found?
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the beginning stages of decomposition begin after 36hrs, so probably to be found at that stage would mean the body is around 3-5 days old, is my guess.

"What is Putrefaction?
Putrefaction follows a predetermined timetable in nature and after the first 36 hours the neck, the abdomen, the shoulders and the head begin to turn a discoloured green. This is then followed by bloating – an accumulation of gas that is produced by bacteria toiling away within the deceased. This bloating is most visible around the face where the eyes and the tongue protrude as the gas inside pushes them forward.
 
As the body continues to putrefy, the skin blisters, hair falls out and the fingernails of the deceased began to sink back into the fingers. These skin blisters are also filled with large amounts of liquid just as in a blister you might get from running or walking too far.
The body's skin tone then becomes what is known as 'marbled'; an intricate pattern of blood vessels in the face, abdomen, chest and other extremities becomes visible. This is the result of the body's red blood vessels breaking down, which in turn release Haemoglobin.
As the process reaches its conclusion, the body will now be almost black-green and the fluids – known as purge fluid – will drain from the corpse. This happens normally from the mouth and nose but can also occur from other orifices. The body's tissues then begin to break open and will release gas and other fluids in the same way as a fruit that has been left too long in the sun.
It is also important to note that the internal organs of the deceased will begin to decay in a particular order; beginning with the intestines, which as well as holding bacteria also hold various levels of acidic fluid which – when unable to circulate – begin to eat through their surrounding tissues. As the intestinal organs decay so too do the liver, kidneys, lungs and brain. The contents of the stomach may also slow down the rate of decay if there is undigested food in and around that area.
The last organs to give way to decay are the prostate and/or the uterus. Again, this may sound all very unpleasant but it is a natural calendar of events for the body to go through and one which the pathologist and Scenes of Crime Officer (SOCO) will find useful in their quest to Determine the Time of Death.
Be aware also that hot temperatures will speed up this process, while cooler temperatures will slow it down. Also, a person who has died with a septic wound will suffer the effects of putrefaction faster, as the bacteria from sepsis spreads quickly and does damage on a larger and faster scale."

http://www.exploreforensics.co.uk/the-ra...orpse.html
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Italy Ngala Offline
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(04-26-2016, 10:56 AM)LionKiss Wrote:
(04-25-2016, 09:37 PM)Ngala Wrote:
(04-25-2016, 07:27 PM)LionKiss Wrote: it is a little difficult to understand the guys in safariLive,
all those past weeks they were confirming that the 5th Birmingham Boy is fine but a little weaker than usual and suddenly he died and the photos above show that he had some serious illness.

All those patches on his skin could not have happened overnight.

The patches on the body indicate that he didn't die recently but some days ago, the hair on his skin fall, it's a normal process of decomposition, they aren't ante mortem. You can also understand by the eyes that is not died near the time of the discovery.


according to the decomposition shown in those photos how many days could have passed since he died? As far as I know his death was announced last Sunday April 24th.
and what sign in his eyes indicate that he did not die the day he was found?

I think that's been dead for at least two days, although it's hard to say exactly because the environmental factors are crucial (temperature, humidity, ...). About the eyes, they are turbid, dull, dry, indicates that he isn't dead in the hours just prior to the discovery.
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The boys on a buffalo kill. Pic credits to Arie Smit.

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Photo and information credits: PJD Photography from Nkorho Rangers
25 April 2016:
"One of the Birmingham boys this morning feeding on the Buffalo they killed last night."

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"Another Birmingham brother waiting his turn at the Buffalo kill."

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Photo and information credits: JRD Photography
"Male lion on a buffalo kill. This was one of the Birmingham coalition. These guys can hunt buffalo, they killed a female and two young ones at the same spot"

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Hi guys, new to this forum.

hope you're all well

have been following the lion coalitions in sabi sabi for a few months now. so much history and so many dynamic changes, learn new things every day about the wonderful past of this area. hope to visit one day soon.



Especially fond of the birmingham boys. But then all the coalitions have so much to offer and have overcome so many incredible challenges. 

Has there been any updates into how Scrapper passed away? Was so sad when heard this news. Was looking forward to following him for many years. When compare videos over the past few months to last year, he seemed much thinner and smaller in frame. Really hard to understand what happened. I guess no one really knows for certain.
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Welcome to the forum @Devlit
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(05-01-2016, 11:34 PM)sanjay Wrote: Welcome to the forum @Devlit

thanks buddy! 

Great to see so many enthusiasts. incredible how much passion every one has!
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